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Recieved: 2003/02/22 19:34
Subject: Re: [K-list] This comes to mind from Jason B
From: felix
On 2003/02/22 19:34, felix posted thus to the K-list:
On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 19:20:25 -0000
"Dean Robbins" <Dean.Robbins AT_NOSPAM btinternet.com> wrote:
, felix AT_NOSPAM intrstar.net writes:
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> No such thing as a non-dual perspective can possibly exist.
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> A non-dual perspective does exist. It does not however come from the mind. It comes from the true Self. Some refer to it as the "Witness State". It is the ability to see every moment as perfect, with the Self not separate from any of it.
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> I concur.
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> "In the world, but not of the world."
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> I concur.
Hi Jason, Dean,
Actually, in making that statement I hoped to provoke a clearer understanding of what those who wrap themselves in saffron robes mean when they use the expression "nonduality". Maybe I'm a little more up on it now due to the dialogue.
I guess I'm still wondering what the point of rejecting duality in favor of it. I think we need both, and the stuff I wrote to a friend below is the best explanation I've given myself to date. The "child of 7 days" is what I think is an equivalent of existing in a state of nonduality. Maybe I'm wrong. Who cares? LOL
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> Thank you Felix, perhaps you can see how I got so excited when I read your post on how man developing language resulted in him kicking God the father out of his kingdom. It certainly rang bells for me.
Yes, the story of Genesis really does seem to concern itself with the first 7 days of life for each of us. Our caregivers start cooing to us immediately, and we begin to create our world of words from that point on. I suspect this form of turning the child from what is thought of as a feral beast into a human child is what is referred to as some as the original sin. That feral beast of the first 7 days though, is the state of innocence that must be realized again in our person as one of the elemental parts of the two that must be turned into One. Otherwise, the world we created with words exist unopposed.
If something happens like a traumatic accident or say, being struck by lightening, we get the "sense" knocked out of us, and the power of the child of that first 7 days becomes available to us. But, it occurs to me that in that traumatized state we simply can't grok what to do with it because of our dislogical state. Later, when we regain our "senses", we may be able to look back at what was available to us during our period of insensibility and wonder what could have happened had we been able to consciously guide that energy into miraculous behavior. And if we don't regain our senses, then we lie there in a coma similar to that of the 7 day old child.
We need both. We need the wisdom and consciousness of our world of words and the awareness and unlimited potential of the 7 day old child. This appears to be the two elementary qualities that can be melded into One.
felix
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