To: K-list
Recieved: 2003/02/18 04:31
Subject: [K-list] Death Wish
From: felix
On 2003/02/18 04:31, felix posted thus to the K-list:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:33:35 -0700
"hbrost" <hbrost AT_NOSPAM skysearch.com> wrote:
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> > However, from a non-dual perspective...
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> Felix wrote:
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> No such thing as a non-dual perspective can possibly exist.
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> Hety says: Oh but yes. Jesus the Christ had a non-dual perspective.
Rumor, pure rumor. LOL
What Jesus supposedly did or said amounts to hearsay and supposed recollections of events by others centuries later, and made even more unintelligible, for the most part, by a plethora of unending translations from a multiplicity of dead languages, and redaction for any motivation or ambition imaginable. This does, however, make it easy to interpret any of it to any purpose desired, even your own, without contradiction by some final authority, much less God.
> Felix asked:
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> As if the ego was some separate demon that forced you to be something other than what you truly "are"?
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> Hety exclaims:
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> YOU BETCHA! Why? Because us hoomans created the ego. Why? Out of shame and guilt and protection. Why? Because we were given Free Will and with our Free Will we "escaped from God." Our incredibly wonderful egos protect us from God. The less-Kundalini-fied will never understand this because they haven't experienced the I AM. Yes, I keep going back to that, don't I? The ego can actually be observed, quantified and put in a box...thrown away? I don't think so, but I'll definitely stick with the observing factor. Yes, the ego is a demon of our own creation.
I think we might continue to disagree on what the ego amounts to. Presently, I'm thinking we brought it with us. Either that or it happened when the Great Schism divided us all into two parts. That momentous event frustrated the hell outta concentrating on finding a way outta here. ;-)
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> Felix calmly states:
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> Do you 'think' that you are not a human animal struggling with physical survival? Without the ego you would not have a body or the opportunity to meditate and experience your claims.
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> Hety observes:
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> Oooh yay ego! I'm ready. To leave, that is. This body doesn't seem to be worth it -- to me, to me. It's keeping me from YOU! ;-)
God is good. It's beneficence humbles me. LOL
felix
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