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Recieved: 2003/02/17 22:43
Subject: Re: [K-list] This comes to mind
From: Dean Robbins
On 2003/02/17 22:43, Dean Robbins posted thus to the K-list:
----- Original Message -----
From: "felix" <felix AT_NOSPAM intrstar.net>
To: <k-list AT_NOSPAM kundalini-gateway.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [K-list] This comes to mind
> On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 20:53:42 -0000
> "Dean Robbins" <Dean.Robbins AT_NOSPAM btinternet.com> wrote:
> > The brain will always be limited...This brain which is conditioned by
knowledge, by experience, by tradition, cannot have any communication with
the mind which is totally outside the activity of the brain. That mind can
communicate with the brain, but the brain cannot communicate with...[the
mind]--
Hello Felix,
> Hi Dean,
> I agree with most of what you write.
>I had a vision some years ago in which I saw myself coming to earth as a
small
> speck of conscious awareness, and it was that speck of
> conscious awareness which created the body and brain through
> imitation of other specks of awareness that were already
> here. Everything happened through imitation. There was
> nothing else to do.
How interesting....
> In addition to seeing how we got here I also witnessed where
> we will evolve to. It's sorta like a big cosmic joke.
This is a duality question, which raises the issue: How did we get here?
What did we lose? and why did we lose it in the first place? and would we
lose it again if we got back to where we can from?
Of course, these are transcendental questions and can never be answered with
the intellect. What you are stating has substance within duality. However,
from a non-dual perspective... Can
there be any "coming or going?" To use a Christian allegory: Did Adam and
Eve ever leave the garden of Eden? -- Perhaps they only "thought" they did.
>
> It reminds me of a time when I was working in Mississippi
> and a friend from here in NC used my presence there as an
> excuse to come and see me and visit New Orleans at the same
> ti-me.
>
> Once we got our ladies settled in a hotel he HAD to go
> bar-hopping on Bourbon Street. We went to this T&A bar where
> the girls took it off. The thing that fascinated me was that
> the dancing girls, who took turns dancing, seemed to be
> competing with each other to see who could perform the most
> intricate gymnastic tricks. They imitated each other and
> then extended what they imitated by doing something a little
> more difficult than the previous girl. They were
> dancing for each other, and if the men liked to watch, and
> give them money to boot, that appeared to be a side benefit.
>
> This type of activity appeared to be almost exactly how
> evolution took place. It was just entertainment. Some sort
> of global olympics. The personae was in place when we
> arrived here, and the evolution of the species was just a
> matter of seeing who could come up with the best and most
> entertaining evolutionary aspects. Almost like what happens
> on e-groups.
This is a classic example of ego at work. And of coarse, the ego loves
entertainment and the glamour of life. It's ego's way of glossing over the
bad things to
make itself look good, when in actuality, it has (ironically) deluded itself
by not seeing its own self inflicted suffering. And as you said about the
two girls, they are competing with each other because each girl is envious
of the other. Sadly, the two girls couldn't see it because they were too
involved with their self created dramas. This is another example of ego self
preservation , but now it has become an aberration.
The ego sees that it has to "preserve" or "defend" its good character.
This imo is a classic example of how ego really deludes itself for all the
wrong reasons. Whereas, (as ken and I were discussing in our last post),
the true purpose of the ego is to serve the human animal for physical
survival.
> In regard to the body/brain communicating with mind, in my
> opinion it is interactive and not some seperate activity.
> The body is the personal expression of the mind. You can't
> have One without the other. Otherwise, nothing would exist
> for the Witness to witness and acquire wisedome, and
> kundalini would be a me-anding-less sha-m.
Moot point. Mind is such a complex phenomenon. Maybe further elaboration is
required?
Thanks for trying to find common ground, 'Tis good to chat. (-:
Much love,
Dean
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