To: K-list
Recieved: 2003/02/12 01:44
Subject: Re: [k-list] Re:Mirror
From: felix
On 2003/02/12 01:44, felix posted thus to the K-list:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 01:43:18 +0100
white magic zon <whitemagic AT_NOSPAM zonnet.nl> wrote:
> Hi Felix,
> I don't think I understand your answers too well? :) two things
>
> >No 1
> >On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:21:49 +0100
> >white magic zon <whitemagic AT_NOSPAM zonnet.nl> wrote:
> > > What does the word "SHA", besides tea, mean? as in sha-
> > > man?? Is it your definition or a generally accepted one?
> >
> >How the hell would I gnow? One of the delightful aspects of
> >be-co-me-ing with the witness is to descover what It sees.
> >felix
>
>
> - what does it mean to become a witness etc. ? - since
> your last posting I discovered the difference between"private"
> and k-list mails, hadn't realize, sorry.
The way to distinquish private mail requires one to notice
who the post is addressed to. The list mail has the list
address. Since I don't get a copy when you reply it seems
obvious that you are not just hitting the Reply to All
button, and so it might appear that you are having to change
the automatic reply to sender feature of the list mail. I
don't send private mail that I really mind the list seeing
so it's not that much of a problem. You posted my second
private mail to the list below.
The Witness is the non-judgemental witness each of us reportedly have. In my experience it exists as a presence I
become one with by letting go of the baggage of the persona,
and somehow learn to exercise volition in communicating
either through speech or writing from that perspective. I
feel gratitude for this priviledge.
I learned to write it first through poetry. Poets are people
who administer poetic justice. At the beginning I thought I
was doing it for personal reasons, to impress my family, and
then my girlfriends, etc., but it didn't work the way I
thought it would. I.E., it didn't get me the girl. LOL
Then, through rejection and humiliation I finally learned
that in writing the voice had to get more or less
transcribed without judgement of whether the content got the
results I wanted to happen. To stay in the flow I have to
just serve it up without understanding who or what the
content was intended for. I struggled with this because I
wanted the source to serve my own purposes rather than the
source of the content. Since I was born a double Taurus my
stubborn-ness made it a long process.
I learned to speak it doing tarot and palm readings over
many years. Again, I had to learn to speak it under the same
conditions. It took years and much needless suffering to say
what I "saw" without questioning the intent of the source of
it. Very scary stuff. People have a tendency to wanna kill
or inflict other bodily harm to the messenger. It may seem
to be a balancing act between staying connected to the source while simultaneously watching for adverse reactions to what
is spoken. "Run, Forest, RUN!!"
Only much later, recently in fact, when in correspondence
with a Jane Roberts/Seth devotee did I learn that what I was
doing was what they called channeling. That might or might
not help depending on whether they have learned something I
missed. Eloquence comes trippingly to the self-taught.
So, when you ask where Sha came from, I don't gnow and don't
particularly care. I benefited personally in the sense that
I do have an interest in how the Jewish tribes constructed
their metaphors because I'm a big fan, but since I am not of
that tribe I have no obligation to hide the secret nayme of
their God... if such be that. I'll probably pay for my
care-less-ness.
>
> No2
>
> " Your love should not depend on the lack of loving of the others!
>
> Hi Gautama,
> Interesting phrasing above. Who's love? Should?
> Posting other's off-list messages on the list is bad form"
>
> Felix;
> - what does gautama mean?
> - what do you mean here with "off-list message", and why is it bad form (=
> meaning bad behavior, right?)
> - explaining the phrase In the context of my whole mail, in another way:"
> the love of an individual, should not depend of the love of the
> environment, rather on the love the individual feels toward the world.
>
> Hope we get more synchrony now,
This can all be avoided if I only communicate with you
on-list. This is cumbersome, however, because I post to the list too much now. And yet... consider it done. ;-)
felix
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