To: K-list
Recieved: 2003/02/11 21:44
Subject: [k-list] Let's talk K, Hillary
From: Dean Robbins
On 2003/02/11 21:44, Dean Robbins posted thus to the K-list:
Hi Hillary, let's continue:
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>> I have considered that maybe these so-called "otherworldly" experiences are just an expression of a deeper aspect of our true Self. Perhaps what I perceive is a part of the divine play, an illusion cast before me, a cosmic soup of sorts. Maybe the truth is... knowing that "I am" just a witness to this dramatic illusion.
>Beautifully stated! :)) I've pretty much stopped trying to figure it out. When I first started hearing "voices" I felt they were coming from "me" but a part of me that wasn't readily accessible. The physical bliss type experiences are the most common for me.
Interesting....I receive information telepathically within my mind occasionally, sometimes it is heard, sometimes it comes as a stream of thoughts. On one occasion, I was lying on my bed, and a voice forewarned me of a Kundalini experience I was about to have without me knowing what was about to happen. The voice was right, because as soon as it told me, I had an amazing surge of K-energy rise up through my physical (or was it subtle) body, I suddenly found myself confronted with an awesome blazing strobe light, it was as bright as the sun and very intense. A part of me wanted to merge with it, but a part of me was also apprehensive. It was my apprehension which brought me out of it and back to my physical senses. I'd never experienced anything like it before. The whole experience left me in a state of awe for several days.
As for the bliss type experiences, these tend to manifest during my meditation, especially when I can feel K moving within me. I can also feel it when my mind is very still and relaxed during my daytime activities or even after a meditation. -- I have also experienced bliss type states when my physical senses and body are sleep but my mind is wide awake. Usually, while in this state, I find myself fly around (out of body) in some kind of void. It has no form and is completely empty. I feel a tremendous sense of freedom and euphoria while in it. Sometimes, while in this void, I see dream images and/or visions appear and then disappear. Sometimes I will focus onto one of these dream images and project myself into it. I am uncertain as to whether this is an astral experience or a lucid dream. Whatever it is, these experiences can, for most of the time be amazing, extraordinary, beautiful, wonderful and awe-inspiring to say the least. I am deeply grateful to God/dess for having them.
>Well, I'm simply fascinated by all these experiences as you can tell by all the polls I've conducted over the years. :)) I find it interesting that it took about 12 years of meditating, but only 2 years once it became serious. Were there any other triggers??
Likewise, I have been meditating on and off for 15 years. It is only in the last 5 years that I have taken to the spiritual path and meditation seriously.
For me, the main trigger or catalyst to the K-awakening came when my mother passed away three years ago. For two weeks after her death, I was deeply traumatised and could not sleep properly. What sleep I did have, didn't feel like sleep. I know that my body slept for maybe an hour a night, but my mind didn't sleep at all, It was numb and in a constant state of grief. During the day, everything around me took on a surreal quality, I felt like I was living in a dream. I was mentally and emotionally depleted . Then one night, after two weeks, as I was lying in bed "trying" to sleep, my body became paralysed and my mind began to succumb to sleep, but as a drifted off, I found myself being sucked into some kind of energy vortex or whirlpool, and that's when it happened... Whoosh! I had a full blown out of body experience. Since then, these experiences have continued with frequency. Most triggers of K today, tend to happen usually when I meditate or my mind is awake while my body and senses are asleep.
Hope that's enough information for now.
Take care,
With love --Dean
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