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Recieved: 2003/02/07 18:33
Subject: [k-list] spirituality poll interim results
From: Druout
On 2003/02/07 18:33, Druout posted thus to the K-list:
In a message ...Mystress AT_NOSPAM Kundalini-Gateway.org writes:
>Let me ask you (remember the answer is unique to you
>- not a requirement for me)
>What are the qualities of a spiritual person?
whups, there is the poll... :)
Dear List,
So far, there are 12 responses to Angelique's spirituality poll. Does anyone else want to add his/her thoughts to the poll? The categories are somewhat subjective. Feel free to make suggestions! :))
Thanks to all who so far took part! :))
Love, Hillary
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Laughter, smiling got 5 mentions
non duality/all that is/discovery of who *I* am ... 4
acceptance, lack of attachment... 4
simply arrives/energy, everything ... 3
compassion 2
concern for others, desire to be helpful 2
non judgmental 2
humble 2
living in the moment 2
quiet/peaceful 2
intuitive 1
gratitude 1
powerful 1
authentic, true to self 1
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the posts:
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Genuine Spirituality is the one that comes handsomely
packaged, sealed with an official stamp and delivered
to your door complete with its own instruction book
and certificate of authenticity.
Fake spirituality is one you have to discover for your
self. It doesn't always work, but you don't have anybody
to blame. It's not a "thing" to force batteries into, but
when it delivers, it delivers magnificently.
Our mileage varies, that's for sure, but I found a few things
holding true for me: With "Genuine" I open the package and
discover culture, opinions and interpretation. With my own
brand of "fake," I discover myself and can find my own
peace of mind in an eclectic community,
Funny how things turn around.
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This is going to be quite subjective I think :^)
A spiritual person is in the moment, not distracted by concerns over events in the past or attachments to the way things turn out in the future. Each moment is perfect for them.
The give help of any kind they are able when they are asked.
They will probably have a lot of intuitive insights, but you would never know it just by talking to them.
Humility.
You will always wonder what they are smiling about.
They usually have an air of gratitude about them.
Ok thats enough.
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I look for light behind the eyes. Sometimes, it is the gleam of madness... :)
I read an interesting theory that involved spirituality some
time back by an astrologer based on the orbit of Saturn and
it's return to it's natal position every 29 1/2 years.
He/she stated that the first orbit is concerned with the
physical aspects of life such as growing a body and the
whole sex thing. The next cycle concerns the mental aspect
of life, and the third the spiritual.
According to this person, as one enters their late twenties
and approaches the first Saturn Return they lose hope that
the physical aspects of life will get them the results they
want, and shift their hope toward the rewards of the mental
challenges of life. Interestingly, they pointed out that at
about the age of 42 a person experiences a sort of mental
puberty similar to physical puberty, 12 years after the 1st
Return, and comes into the power to procreate mentally at
that age. Mind fusking?
As the person reaches their late 50s and the end of the
Second Return they lose hope in the mental life and begin to
look toward the spiritual realm to fulfill their needs. And
at the age of 70-71 experience a spiritual puberty of sorts
that provides them with the fecundation of spiritual power.
At the approach of the third Return, they lose hope that
spirituality will get the job done for them. However, if
they reach the age of 84, the first and probably singular Uranus Return, then they are automagically bestowed with
grace no matter what kind of life they have lived.
If one were to find themselves vested in this line of
thinking, they might be led to suspect that spirituality has
it's limits also, just like the physical and mental.
What's a po' boy to believe? LOL!!
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Whereas the actual poll
has had very few responses. (shrug) Genuine spirituality: Laughter is the
nature of spirit.
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What irony! There I was in the midst of typing a response to this email
when the computer locks up solid, and I had to reboot, losing what had been
written! So I should leave well enough alone... :-)... but...
Genuine spiriTuality... I get tongue tied and twisted when I try to say
anything about that... I end up laughing at the myself that thinks it knows
what that is all about, but wait... who's that laughing behind me =8^O?
Earthworms, baked and then crumbled into a Quiche Lorraine, (instead of
bacon), are quite tasty!
-Shams (formerly from the Ministry of Silly Walks)
Deepest respect to those who are experiencing the grief of loss right now.
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> Genuine spiriTuality... I get tongue tied and twisted when I try to say
>anything about that... I end up laughing at the myself that thinks it knows
>what that is all about, but wait... who's that laughing behind me =8^O?
>
:)) Yeah! :)) I find the question really difficult to answer. I'll make a quick stab at it, though.
Laughter/joy is certainly a prerequisite. :))
Compassion without unctuousness
Inclusiveness as opposed to exclusiveness
Being dispassionate without loss of passion
lack of self absorption, and therefore a concern for others that comes naturally.
a natural desire to help others without being attached to any result.
a wider rather than narrow view of what constitutes "reality"
Open mindedness
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Genuine spirituality...hmmm...
It's reflected to me in quiet, humble natures. By quiet I mean the person who's essence is self contained and not needful of 'others' yet fills his surroundings with peacefulness. By humble I'm speaking of the person who accepts life w/out the need to attach judgements (good or bad, right or wrong, fixed or broken...).
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Yes those are manifestations that come from a centered
being...beautiful. The word genuine means being honest, sincere so I suppose
just being might be complete. I believe when spirituality becomes an
identity then it is not a truth. Identities are everything false in a person
since they rely on duality's and are contrary to the self. Genuine
spirituality is just that, acting with sincerity, acting without a
preconceived notion, without calculation. But to even attempt to describe it
is relying on opposites...NETI, NETI, not this, not that. Genuine
Spirituality is just that: coming from the source. I believe spirituality is
present even without action, is always present, and is more apparent in some
than others. The spirit can not be faked. It just is...
Whoops, my daughter just reminded me I'm supposed to be watching over the
cooking of the Irish Oatmeal.
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.... that is a hard one. I would say someone who is
authentically themselves. Someone who is nonjudgmental. Someone who is
living in the moment.
Compassion......peaceful and powerful..........And still has a good sense of
humor!
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spirituality is everything.
spirit is energy.
it is all that is.
the murderer and the saint,
love and hate.
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I like this quote from the movie, "Kama Sutra":
"I used to worship inside of temples, until I found that everything was holy.Waterfalls, stone, grass...All pure spirit.Now like a madman, I worship everything that I see."
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Spirituality is the discovery that the ego is 'not' the essence of Who I Am...and the subsequent path of discovering who I really AM! It's the constant observation of this "human being," experiencing human feelings and emotions ...and once again, knowing it's not who I really AM. It is also noticing this difference in others as they pass through my timeline.
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