To: K-list
Recieved: 2003/01/21 18:58
Subject: Re: [k-list] Helping others....
From: Kcharvey
On 2003/01/21 18:58, Kcharvey posted thus to the K-list:
Charles said:
I want to throw this out to the list to hear your opinions and perhaps this will help me clarify my position because at the moment I am torn between the following two conclusions.
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>1. No one needs any help or healing. There is no where we are coming from and no where we are going to. No good and no bad. Nothing to heal. There is only experience and free will. The desire to help others comes only from a need to feel useful and valuable and to give me a sense of purpose and meaning. People are Gods of their own lives creating their own reality. Without darkness there could be no light, without pain there could be no pleasure and without suffering there could be no joy. Nothing to heal. This is the natural order on the physical plane. This is duality.
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>Kent says:
>The desire to help my son through the treatment of cancer is indeed from a need
>to feel useful. And also to save his life. I suppose being the God of his life, he will
>choose the light, pleasure and joy at another time.
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>Creating you own reality can be confusing for a 5 year old.
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>Charles proposes:
>If we all treated others as we wish to be treated; if we all faced our demons and surrendered to God/dess; if we all stopped judging others; if we all recognised that we are one family of brothers and sisters; if we all recognised that we are sharing a beautiful planet temporarily and that we dont own it and it is not ours to destroy. It seems so easy. It doesn't even require faith in a higher force, just common sense.
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>Kent says:
>You have referenced what is sometimes called the "Golden Rule"
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>I am rather fond of the "Bronze Rule".
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>The Bronze Rule is for those who have not attained
>the level of self love, or have not acknowledged the presence
>of Divine love in their lives necessary to properly apply the Golden Rule.
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>The Bronze Rule states:
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>"Treat others better than you treat yourself."
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>This way, you can have low self-esteem, treat yourself poorly, but still be nice to others.
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>A martyr can't properly apply the golden rule because he would treat others as poorly as he would Treat himself. But he surely would be able to use the bronze rule in spite of himself.
>Charles says:
>Anger and hatred destroy the human body through dis-ease. By healing the pain and hurt, the body heals too. Surely this is a more desirable state. Or is it?
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>Kent says:
>Sure, except that there is nothing to heal.
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>Warm Regards,
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>Kent
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