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Recieved: 2003/01/21 03:46
Subject: Re: [k-list] Dreams, Astral Hell, Psychosis, and Entities
From: mundane zen


On 2003/01/21 03:46, mundane zen posted thus to the K-list:

>From: Acara <atthepeacock AT_NOSPAM yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [k-list] Dreams, Astral Hell, Psychosis, and Entities
>Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:06:47 -0800 (PST)


>Acara: I had no teacher or tradition that guided me,
>Ken.


Yet you refer to things like, "Ra vibration", "New Age", "channeling", and
this "100 monkey theory". Perhaps your study has been eclectic, but I don't
understand how you can mean this literally.
>For that reason, I have a different bent from
>many. I've learned to look for quantum leaps in use
>of the energy and try to assist others.


Helping others is admirable.
>So, there are pros and cons to taking it "easy as it comes." I
>believe it is so natural, that everyone can channel
>energy. It is a part of us; It is what we are. Those
>who fear it and the use, are blocking the flow. I see
>fear as an inhibitor and great leveler.


I'm not quite sure what you mean by "channel energy". K. energy has given
me some great insights, but I only use it in a passive manner.
>As I said in the decision of the 100th Monkey theory, (discredited
>or not, it is a quantum leap in thought.)


The only problem I have with the 100th Monkey theory is the proposed
mechanism. The knowledge is passed through social interaction, not via
changes in DNA.
>It is "Given" to some to make this leap. Whenever one
>looks at a stream they are contemplating jumping, fear
>and all sorts of "safety" issues come to play. Some
>can look over the stream at others and yell, "Hey,
>how'd you jump that?" Others just are given the
>knowledge they can leap across the stream.


Well, I'm not sure what to make of this stream analogy. I find it useful to
stop the stream entirely, then everything becomes clear.
>Which ever method is employed, learned or intuited, it
>is a quantum leap. The more who make this leap, the
>higher the overall vibration of this dimension. I see
>this as the "turning of the age" and refuse to
>consider doom day predictions of destruction. I also
>see those of us able to use this energy as the leading
>edge that will herald the New Age.


We've been discussing this sense of a higher vibration on this list for a
while now. I know I was drawn back to meditation after a hiatus of several
years, and many others have reported similar experiences. How this will
play-out in the short-term, I can't say. There are some New Age people who
make pretty wild claims that I find a bit hard to believe, but I try to
maintain an open mind. However, when they cross the line and make
statements that are verifiable as outright falsehoods, I feel compelled to
say something -- like:

"solar activity is increasing": No, it's following its normal 11 year cycle
and is decreasing from its high, which was in the year 2000.

"the Schumann Resonance frequency is increasing": No, the fundamental
frequency is the same as it's always been -- ~5.78 hz.

"we're evolving 12-strand DNA": You could see this under a microscope if it
were actually happening.

"Plant-X is returning in 2003": We'd be able to see it directly by now, or
infer its existence via perturbations in the orbits of the planets.

Anyway -- I'm going off on a tangent here, sorry :)
>Acara: If you are in what I think of as a "catatonic"
>state of bliss, you still help your fellows. You are
>holding the vibration. For some, this is their chosen
>path.


I don't begrudge these people their constant God intoxicated state. It's
just not my path I guess. The experiences of the transcendental Self I get
during meditation are enough for me right now.
>I always think of the saying, "It is easy to be a holy
>man on the top of a mountain." In other words, they
>have chosen a path easier than the teacher and person
>who walks in the streets and ale houses and works and
>tries to live in the "Now" with the karmic
>distractions of everyday life, acknowledging man's
>inhumanity to man: wars, theft, murder, or the pin
>pokes of egos.


Yes :)
ken

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