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Recieved: 2003/01/18 04:46
Subject: Re: [k-list] Dreams, Astral Hell, Psychosis, and Entities
From: Druout
On 2003/01/18 04:46, Druout posted thus to the K-list:
In a message dated 1/17/2003 4:28:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, atthepeacock AT_NOSPAM yahoo.com writes:
>How does a shaman's
>experience differ from an insane person's? (a topic of
>later discussion). His answer was this, "A shaman can
>walk back through the door and close it behind him."
>A shaman can walk back through the door and close it
>behind him. In other words, not crazy or questioning
>on a psychological level; he accepts he is dealing
>with an alternate reality.
Dear Acara,
Interesting that we interpret this differently. I see it as an ability to experience "other worlds," but ultimately seeing them as metaphor--an ability to keep grounded to a degree so as to be able to close the door and leave the other world behind at will. A psychotic episode, I feel, is when we treat the experience not only literally but are unable to come back to "ordinary" reality.
>Whether speaking of dream realities, walking the plane
>associated with astral hell, wrestling with enitites,
>or devils, and what that helmet is doing. The
>question is the same. Are these experiences grounded
>in reality? You accept these experiences are "real"
>on a plane of awareness, therefore take steps to
>"deal" with that reality, or you buy into brain
>wiring theories and fears of psychosis. Period.
Or one can simply accept that one is going mad and not fear it.
>As a channeler and human being experiencing kundalini,
>I think the answer to this is crucial.
>
>Brain wiring theories and Freud's "Oceanic feeling,
>theory" popularized by Carl Sagan, always oppose
>metaphysical "realities" associated with kundalini.
>You get hung up in them, you court disaster.
I really liked (I think it was) Jason's take on this. That we accept many of these experiences as real, but we should be careful acting on them! :))
>In other words, you have a decision to make. Either
>we are only monkey minded with no spiritual future,
>the clay and ash return to the ground...all is
>delusions of trying to pretend you are more, or you
>rejoice that we are spiritual beings, on a spiraling
>path of Awareness. The kundalini, or Ra energy, is
>the manifestation of this awareness.
Or both at the same time. I personally feel both are true. I can't account for the paradox. :)) I have no fear of dust to dust.
>The next step is learning to use the kundalini energy
>for your betterment, health, protection, and increased
>awareness.
>
Or simply realizing it is just there.
Love, Hillary
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