To: K-list
Recieved: 2003/01/17 20:37
Subject: Re: [k-list] Brain Helmet
From: David Bozzi
On 2003/01/17 20:37, David Bozzi posted thus to the K-list:
Druout AT_NOSPAM aol.com wrote:
>Dear David,
>
>Fascinating gadget! :))
Yeah, should give the video game companies a run for their money.
>What I have found especially interesting is that what seems to be the same phenomena of otherness and catalepsy can be felt by different people as either immensely terrifying or unbelievably ecstatic and blissful.
I don't doubt that.
>Is it frightening because you feel out of control?
The paralysis intersecting with consciousness in and of itself is not so frightening.
It's the fact that I dream an intruder is breaking into the house while not being able to move.
>It happens to me virtually nightly. Amazing stuff. Almost always blissful, but sometimes there are moments of fear. Is it the same experience, I wonder?
Same neuro-conscious phenomena, yes.
>The question, though, is what put god in the human brain in the first place.
We could start a list on just that topic. :)
Regardless what anyone feels
inclined to say in response to that query
one should realizefirst that whatever one's response is,
it will always be a myth.
(which is fine as all personal/transpersonal experience is a type of myth)
> Or is it that we are all made of god stuff.
I'd say stuffing with croutons.
>And why is it pure pleasure to one and terror to another?
Somehow I sense you already know the answer to that one.
It has to do with our reaction to it.
> And sometimes both :))
Fear/pleasure.
Same difference.
>
>>all people poked electromagnetically
>>with this amazing brain helmet
>>in the particular region of our brain
>>that makes us respond to
>>and experience some imaginary presence
>>of an 'other'
>>are also flooded with a sense of fear.
>
>This I find very curious.
I'd imagine some subjects could experience it as blissful.
You seem like a likely candidate.
>But not to some of us. Why I wonder. Is it a different section of the brain that is activated? or is it how we translate the experience.
I'm not lucid when it happens to me
so I really believe there's an intruder and I can't move.
Were I lucid I sense
it could be experienced as blissful.
I thought about that before.
I suppose one could train oneself to be ready for it
and to recognize the state as such in waking life
by using similar techniques used to
lucid dream.
I lucid dream regularly but it's never fearful
by virtue of the fact that I'm *lucid*.
As a child I always sensed a presence
when I was alone.
I used to think it was spirits
and I'd encounter them in the eyes open/body paralyzed state.
When I experienced spontaneous unitive conscious at 21
it became clear It is just who I am. :)
Thanx for asking,
David
>
>
>"On waking this morning, there was that strange immobility of the body and of the brain; with it came a movement of entering into unfathomable depths of intensity and of great bliss and there was that otherness." p. 58
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