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Recieved: 2003/01/17 19:56
Subject: Re: [k-list] Brain Helmet
From: Druout
On 2003/01/17 19:56, Druout posted thus to the K-list:
In a message dated 1/16/2003 10:51:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, david.bozzi AT_NOSPAM softhome.net writes:
> Interesting to note
>that when this alignment of consciousness & physical paralysis
>occurs to me
>I always sense some foreign presence...
>Usually in the form of an intruder breaking into
>the physical space I am sleeping at.
Dear David,
Fascinating gadget! :))
Krishnamurti often mentions this presence in his *Krishnamurti's Notebook.* He writes: "That presence which ...was there, waiting patiently, benignly, with great tenderness. It was like the lightening on a dark night but it was there, penetrating, blissful." and later: "...woke up in the middle of the night, with the otherness in the room. It was there with great intensity, not only filling the room and beyond but it was there deep down within the brain, so profoundly that it seemed to go through and beyond all thought, space and time." p. 114
What I have found especially interesting is that what seems to be the same phenomena of otherness and catalepsy can be felt by different people as either immensely terrifying or unbelievably ecstatic and blissful.
>This experience sucks
>even more so because of the fact
>I am literally physically paralyzed
>(thanks to the 'genius' of evolutional hard-wiring).
Is it frightening because you feel out of control?
>This lovely experience happens regularly to me
>once or twice a month.
It happens to me virtually nightly. Amazing stuff. Almost always blissful, but sometimes there are moments of fear. Is it the same experience, I wonder?
>I know I am not unusual with regard to having these types of experiences.
>
>Over time
>I actually figured out what is going on.
The question, though, is what put god in the human brain in the first place. Or is it that we are all made of god stuff. And why is it pure pleasure to one and terror to another? And sometimes both :))
<snip>
>One of the more interesting things he found
>while poking people's brains
>(electromagnectically)
>is that there is a region in all of our brains
>that when stimulated
>elicits an experience
>that there is an 'other' present in the room.
>
><snip>
>
>Furthermore,
>I must inform you at this point
>that all people poked electromagnetically
>with this amazing brain helmet
>in the particular region of our brain
>that makes us respond to
>and experience some imaginary presence
>of an 'other'
>are also flooded with a sense of fear.
This I find very curious.
>It is frightening
>to say the least.
But not to some of us. Why I wonder. Is it a different section of the brain that is activated? or is it how we translate the experience.
Love, Hillary
>I have my own personal theory regarding this
>hard-wired button in all of our heads.
>
>It has to do with duality
>and the essential
>need
>an organism in a dualistic environment
>must possess in order to survive.
>
>And further
>furthermore
>I will somehow tie
>this intuition of mine
>into my regular dream experiences
>of dreaming my physical environment
>in a state of paralysis
>while some 'other' is breaking into my
>house as I struggle but can not move.
>
>And further,
>further
>
"On waking this morning, there was that strange immobility of the body and of the brain; with it came a movement of entering into unfathomable depths of intensity and of great bliss and there was that otherness." p. 58
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