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Recieved: 2003/01/17 05:39
Subject: [k-list] Partition The Infinite
From: David Bozzi
On 2003/01/17 05:39, David Bozzi posted thus to the K-list:
Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
> heh. Rather, I recognise that ego ideas of power are illusion. Limited. Ineffective and misguided. I let the smarter part of my mind, the aspect of myself that is infinite do my thinking for me. The aspect of myself that is infinite, I call Goddess.
Even concepts
(no matter how seemingly sacred)
of Goddess are illusion.
An ego idea of power.
Surrender that too...
This limited little 'me'
that thinks big 'Me'
can be split into important and worthwhile little 'me's
with some grand big 'Me' intact (goddess, god whatnot)
concerned & meddling in the affairs
of little 'me's
that clearly
(ok not so clearly)
do not exist
is a myth.
Not Truth.
That's ok.
A helpful tool for awakening?
Perhaps.
But only if realized
none of it is true...
> That which is infinite and nameless does not care what we call it.
True. The infinite can not even know us.
(thank god).
> You are perfect, just as you are.
Acara, myself & you are perfect as we are.
The real kicker is none of us know us
as we are.
Doesn't seem so perfect to *me*.
I will have to go into that one
a bit more...
> I am attending a peace march on Sat. Genuine, physical action to express my objections in a real world forum. No voodoo. I donate food and money to the food bank and other charities. Putting my money where my mouth is, helping people who *asked* for help. I also do a lot of energy work and spiritual counselling, sometimes I get paid for it. Other folks putting their money where their mouth is.
I think all those things are wonderful and not inconsistent
with surrendering to higher power.
I think conflict arises in discussions of surrender
when one erroneously suggests we should not act at all
and deludes the healthy idea of surrender
into something that can be used to avoid responsibility
and fortify personal self-indulgence and ignorance.
You know the,
"Gee I'm fat & lazy & ignorant & I aint doing shit for the world
or anyone else cause 'ALL IS PERFECT'!
(goddammit)"
Not what the Masters of compassion teach.
> All very well to sit on your butt making pretty rainbow visualizations if it puffs up your ego and makes you feel good about yourself, but actions speak louder than words, words speak louder than thoughts.
Thought can be Action.
Visualization can be Action.
Inaction can be Action.
> I never told anyone not to give help when help is clearly asked for. I simply suggested that projecting "needs help" onto people is not a positive attitude... nor is it wise to assume your projections are truth, and act on them without respecting the free will of the individual.
The funny part about us individuals
is that we can't even know freedom
when it bites us on the ass!
David
(individual projection)
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