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Recieved: 2003/01/14 17:10
Subject: Re: [k-list] peace
From: felix
On 2003/01/14 17:10, felix posted thus to the K-list:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 03:00:08 -0700
"Michael A. Read" <maread AT_NOSPAM taosnet.com> wrote:
> Hello there, Felix!
>
> How the heck are ya?
Hi Michael,
I'm doing great. Found a new focus point for my meditation
practice, and finding it very useful.
>
> So, what purpose to life. Hooha! Drama drama drama or dharma dharma dharma.
>
> Ike (Eisenhower) over fifty years ago warned this nation (he was the president, ya know) against
> basing our economy on the military-industrial complex. And you are right, the US of Amerika is still forcing itself (the Amerikan Way of Life) on every other nation on the planet.
Yeah, he warned us, and the fundamentalist preachers here in
the Bible Belt constantly warn us that if we don't kowtow to
their notion of what's what we all going to hell. There is a difference... ? lol
This yin/yang thing has seemingly been going on forever. I
just wonder, however, why one would focus on peace if it's
just one side of some never-ending duality that itself goes
on and on. Peace happens, war happens... but, what has that
got to do with anything or nothing? ;-)
>
> This morning I did some google searches. Try "fear of peace" "fear of enlightenment" and "spiritual humor".
Yeah, that might be an interesting search to some. A while
back I did a search on "unforgivable sin". Boy, was that an
eye-opener.
>
> What if schools, hospitals, and so on had all the money they needed and the military had to hold bake sales! ha!
>
> Ike's point is still relevant today - adjusted for inflation of course. ;-) Instead of spending a billion dollars for a stealth bomber, how about spending that moolah on health care, affordable and dignified housing, education and self help programs?
Everything is relevant, and yet not anything is relevant...
and in relation to what one might ask? One great kahuna
suggests that the poor will always be with us. The death and
final humiliation of total loss seems to exist as a final
solution for all, no matter the cause or the cost of the
funeral.
> How does this relate to kundalini you ask. Well, alrighty then!
>
> We all have our ideals of how life is supposed to be - our basic belief systems and cherished concepts. The meme that we consider to be correct. Somewhere along the line though we might ask the universal kahuna what is really going on, what is the purpose of all this, isn't there something more, something real, something that can make sense out a senseless world?
If we did ask the "universal kahuna" what is going on, would
not each of us have to interpret the response we got
according to the dictates of our own experience, and because
we each have own own experiences, end up in the same place
we find ourselves presently. To what end would such
questioning provide a difference?
>
> And so we become seekers. We knock on the proverbial door, we want to know, we want to grow and understand and become enlightened, awake fully realized human beings. We have started the process of this growth, seemingly through our own volition.
At what point, Michael, do you suspect this "wanting"
appears in our lives? And how do you think this desire to
search for something different than what we appear natally
to be, becomes the driving force that dictates the direction
of our lives. It startles me occasionally to give
consideration to the supposed wisdom of many pundits who
suggest that we should become as children to receive the
best life has to offer, and yet simultaneously suggest that
the way we are won't get the ox outta the quicksand.
>
> In short, we have asked something 'outside' of our meme for help. The fear and pain that comes with the kundalini experience is there mainly because we want the universe to fit into our 'personal' belief system. The joy and ecstacy comes when we are able to let go of our beliefs.
Okay. ;-)
But, wouldn't the above simply be another meme to replace
the one that provokes the kundalini response in the first
place? Do you think that the initial and perhaps unrecognized palpitations of kundalini might have provoked said desire to
experience life in a more harmonious way?
>
>
> live and let live
> love and let love
Personally I have a fond affection for "A stitch in time
saves nine. Platitudes not withstanding. LOL!!
felix
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