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Recieved: 2002/12/29 05:05
Subject: Re: [K-list] Kundalini vs. kundalini question
From: Karolina Lindqvist
On 2002/12/29 05:05, Karolina Lindqvist posted thus to the K-list:
söndagen den 29 december 2002 02.05 skrev Mystress Angelique Serpent:
> Kundalini Yoga Copyright Yogi Bahan... :) One would not think such a
> simple expression could be copyrighted, but there ya go.
Oops, so you can't say "kundalini yoga" without infringing on that copyright?
> Some would say, people get enlightened easier these days coz the earth
> vibration is higher. Could be true, could be balderdash. Could be people
> are deluding themselves about their attainment... (including me!)
I sometimes wish there was a kind of measuring machine that could mesure the
amount of delusion and the amount of spiritual enlightment. As easily as
taking the blood pressure, or something.
> Self realization is
> realizing you are the Self. Thou art God.
The problems come when different persons realize different things about the
self, come to different conclusions, maybe even contradictory.
> Nor does enlightenment preclude losing all emotions. Jesus tossed the
> traders from the temple and cursed a fig tree to death because it would not
> give him any figs. Yogananda's Master Yukteshwar was well known for a sharp
> tongue and ample use of the Master's cane. "Whack whack, enlightened yet???
> No? Whack whack... "
In India there are many stories of big "englightened" persons, with a bad
temper, going around and cursing people who they don't like. But there are
also stories about how some of them get into deep trouble because of that.
I think it appears like there are degrees of enlightment and realization. So
that little enlightment (like a small light is shining on you) is realatively
easy to get, but it is getting harder and harder. At some point you get
enlighted enough to reach "liberation". And I don't have the faintest idea
about how much is needed for that.
> Muktananda had several sex scandals, Sai Baba is a notorious pedophile.
> Osho liked his gold and Rolls Royces... so does this mean they are not
> enlightened? I think, it means they are enlightened and also human.
As I see it, as long as you have such cravings, you have not reached
enlightment enough for liberation. This simply because there are no children
to rape, or no Rolls Royce's outside of the earthly existence. We are here
because we have cravings for earhtly enjoyment, not because some witch or
some god has put an evil spell on us. But that's me. I have never had the
opportunity to get gold or Rolls Royce's.
Hurting others, like pedophili, is very dangerous, since it creates such
strong karmic threads that you can be forced to take birth again, so that the
previous children can get their revenge on you.
Karolina
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