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Recieved: 2002/12/27 15:28
Subject: [K-list] ET's, angels and monsters Poll results
From: Druout
On 2002/12/27 15:28, Druout posted thus to the K-list:
Dear List,
If anyone has more to add, I'll include their responses at the Gateway site.
Many grateful thanks to all those who responded to this fascinating subject.
Poll Question 1. Have you experienced beings from "another world."
Nine people specifically responded to the poll. Nine others have described
out of this world experiences either during the poll or on the list not so
long ago or simply responded to others.
Six people described beings of light-- from a huge winged figure with purple
cape and crown, to glowing balls, to white light smiling figures with big
eyes, to "white light crystal love feelings", to large eyed blue or
yellowish figures--the yellowish "kind of lanky and the bluish...shorter with
larger heads", to hundreds of musical specks of light. It's interesting that
these light beings seem range from playful to awe inspiring--angel-like to
faerie-like.
Six people described feeling or hearing presences--from source-like love
feelings of absolute bliss, to evil beyond terror. Usually these invisible
presences are described as awe-inspiring and profound.
Three people were visited by blue or black skinned Kali like figures--one saw
her two year old child transforming into a "blue skinned, exotically robed
child with horns or an elaborate head-dress." Another described "a dark young
woman of about 4 1/2 feet blacker than the night." Another person saw an
8-10 year old girl with blue crystal kaleidascope eyes.
In another case of "transformation," a person told of his face visibly (to
others) shifting into a reptilian alien.
Three people described being "worked on" by invisible beings. Another heard a
voice and then felt her body writhing and hissing.
Two people seem to have been visited by human "ghosts"--one a woman, and one
an English guy.
Two people mentioned being visited by symbolic or geometric figures.
Other people were visited by unusual creatures--one by a foot tall
malnourished grey troll like creature, another by little grey stick figures,
and another by fuzzy grey balls, another rehabilitated a huge crowd of "bent
faeries."
***
Question 2: How would you characterize the experience? i.e. terrifying,
profound,
joyful, comical, etc.?
Thirteen people described the experience as profound, transforming, amazing,
impressive or awe-inspiring.
Six people described the experience as frightening: "beyond terror",
terrifying, scary, "still afraid," or overwhelmed.
Five people described them as comforting, calming, peaceful, or inspiring
thanks.
Four people mentioned Love in response to them.
Two people described the beings as joyful, sweet, playful, or that the
experience made her giggle
Two described the beings as beautiful.
****
Question 3:Do you have an explanation for them?
Many were responses such as "Unfortunately I'm still clueless as to what
happened" or "No sure dont but maybe someday I will"
One person said she was told the beings she encountered were from Sirius.
Another mentioned his were from the "astral"
Still another said he read that they do not reproduce through sex hence their
interest in human sex.
Another wrote "As far as "beings"or sentient energies, are they from another
world if we see them here? I don't really care at this point, just that due
to k we are able to see them and/or sometimes they allow us to see them.
Another dimension, or
wavelength of the spectrum of light and sound we are lucky (some may use
another word here) to experience."
Others wrote: "I suppose they are from other dimentions.....
or from other realms of reality..." and
"I tend to believe that they could be Angels but they may also be some
similar
form or "being of light" that might be unknown to me though. It
appears from their intention and their effect that they would be
messengers of some kind of "higher" conscience." and finally "During the
experience it's as clear and as certain as the sun.
Afterwards, I prefer being very loose in my interpretation if I do
attempt to explain them. "
************
The posts:
saw a being later identified as from the "astral"
> What form did these beings take?
A 8-10 year old girl with blue crystal kaleidascope eyes. An ancient
wise old soul.
> How would you characterize the experience? i.e. terrifying, profound,
> joyful, comical, etc.?
I had just experienced a profound mutual orgasm so it was embarrasing, but
got the message.
Do you have an explanation for them?
Read later that they do not reproduce through sex hence their interest in
human sex. The message I recieved was that I could reach transcendance
through other methods.
I realised that it was the transcendant state I sought not the sex
itself.
************
you would not believe it.
I have too much to share. I'm exhausted from spending too much time on the
net. Here are my highlights.
2 different girls who dont' know each other saw my face shift into a
reptilian alien
I have had encounters with ET's beings on night between sleep and
consciousness.
I have experienced beyond terror; biological fears based on a feeling like an
evil force wanted to suck me in.
Experienced bliss; white light crystal love feelings of absolute bliss;
source like.
I identify very much with Bringers of the Dawn.
Most people I know who had kundalini experiences have had ET experiences.
I'm in touch with <A HREF="http://www.centerchange.org/">www.centerchange.org</A> who are seriously studying the
phenomena. These issues explain many of our 'unstable' world as the love
frequency is trying to take root on earth; in the mass consciousness.
Goddess energy is returning and we must nurture her!!
***********
it was a full moon night and i anticipated an occultation of saturn by
carrying a candle and incense outside and creating a makeshift altar. the
incense i had bought earlier and was something i had never burned...egyptian
musk. i was out of my usual temple incense, so there it was. sitting in
meditation (breath awareness) for a time, then gazing at the full moon
through branches of a water oak...to the left and higher in the sky was mars,
small and orangish. i thought how unseen but *behind mars, transited
pluto...a conjunction. and in my mind i knew that although i could not see
it, the enpowerment of mars was extraordinary. then she appeared. a dark
young woman of about 4 1/2 feet. blacker than the night so the candlelight
wasn't needed to distinguish her. her eyes were blue as our carolina sky :)
and her lips quite red. she was a pleased, happy countenance. and she sat
as i did, half lotus. but while i was seated on a wooden deck, she was in
mid air maybe 3 ft. away.now my intention had been to bathe in the moonlight
and as i saw her my first thought surprised me (as if i were of 2 distinct
minds)...and it was *why are you, kali - here. why not a moon goddess?*her
answer came into my mind, a telepathy. it was, *because i am the only one
you are connected to* and with this the smile and eyes seemed to be brighter
than the black night stars. then she was gone.i felt calm as if the
appearance was quite natural. at first! so i sat for a just a bit longer,
then went inside and told my partner that i had just seen and spoken
(briefly) with kali. he told me i had hallucinated and i smiled. it was
shortly after this that amazement began to sink in and i went online to
research everything i could about her. i knew very little actually. i even
joined every list that mentioned her name that i could find.none of the art
work much looked like what i had seen. she did not have the appearance of a
wrathful deity or vengeful figure - no skulls and only 2 arms. but i was
unshaken. i knew who i had seen and what had transpired. i was once again
amazed to read that her incense (determined how it didn't say :) was
*egyptian musk*.later, on a kali list, a lovely woman responded to my account
of this night by sending me a personal mail stating that sara la kali was
described by gypsies and others as being small, exactly "4 1/2 ft" in height.
how i knew that night she measured such i still do not know. it was another
thing that simply was in my head. perhaps put there for later validation? i
don't know. but i am familiar with the dark and this is the second time i
have seen a blackness deeper than night.hi. i'm sarai, new to the list. i
teach kundalini on the beach and at a medical center. i am an astrologer by
practice and a star gazer by heart. my closest connections are to faery, the
energizing life sparks of nature - and to my teacher and practice, theravadan
buddhism. looking forward to learning and sharing on the list.
*********
there have been two occasions where I've experienced
encounters, not sure if they quite fit your poll but here they are.
The first was terrifying for me as my two year old daughter, in
broad daylight, transformed into a blue skinned, exotically robed
child with horns or an elaborate head-dress, it lasted just a minute
then she was herself again, I couldn't believe my eyes.
The second was hearing a disembodied voice say I am (a name that I
couldn't make out) then my body started writhing and hissing of it's
own accord, again this only lasted a short time, I was a little
fearful when I heard the voice but felt nothing when my body was
moving.
**********
Yes this used to happen every so often but it seems to happen more nights
than not anymore.
Usually they have taken several forms some are invisible except for a very
thick layer of energy in a long form, sometimes they are blue or yellowish
and usually the yellowish are long and kind of lanky and the bluish and
sometimes pink are shorter with larger heads they all have larger eyes than
us though. It seems to vary from night to night.
How would you characterize the experience?
Beautiful and amazing they never scare me they seem
to be working on me I cant really tell you what they are doing sometimes they
talk to me and sometimes they dont. They are doing odd things to my chakras
almost like digging around in them sometimes I leave my body midway through
the experience and other times I just wake up several hours later and wonder
what had happened. I have seen equipment of some sort around me that I can
not explain and things hovering above me. Sometimes it really aches or gives
me sharp pains when they work on me but I still dont think it is anything
negative. I have had some beautiful OOB celestial experiences while they do
what they are doing and I have noticed that the moon phases play some sort of
a roll in the intensity of the sessions or whatever you want to call them. I
LOVE THEM GREATLY I have been told they are there to help me but they never
give me great details.
One of the most amazing parts is when I recieve flashes of amazing complex
symbols and designs they seem to affect me on a deep soul level and give me
great emotions even though they are far to complex for me to duplicate I seem
to understand them only on a spiritual level as I could not tell you what
they are for. Alot of this equipment has similar but less colorfol symbols
on them and it just puts you in sort of a trance. One other thing I notice
is that on the nights they do the most work on me I get incredibally drowsy
about at about 9pm which is hard since I have kids but I usualy dont go to
bed till much later Im a nightowl. My hubby has to take over as when I get
this drowsy I can no longer sit up but I can stay awake. The drowsiness goes
away when it is all over usually about 1 to 2 hours later and then I am wide
awake for some reason.
***********
I'm mostly a lurker on this list and really
felt the need to respond to this poll as I don't often read about many
people having these experiences from a k perspective. As far as "beings"
or sentient energies, are they from another world if we see them here? I
don't really care at this point, just that due to k we are able to see them
and/or sometimes they allow us to see them. Another dimension, or
wavelength of the spectrum of light and sound we are lucky (some may use
another word here) to experience. There were lots of things considered
frightening and against all known and approved logic (the earth is round,
bacteria, electricity) until we attained a level of knowledge and
technology which allowed us to see this other dimension.
The beings I have seen include, most wonderfully, three beautiful little
balls of energy. Early in my k experience they were glowing balls of
light, ranging from tennis to basketball size following me around. Late
one night, going nuts from lack of sleep, fear etc... I was asking why and
what is going on when one floated up and actually tweaked me on the nose. I
felt very comforted. Sometimes upon awakening I have felt and/or seen one
or perhaps all of them rise up out of my heart chakra. One time at a loud
concert in a large crowd they were lined up in a row floating near the
ceiling. That is the furthest away I have ever seen them. Nowadays they
are not as clear, more like a round little ripple in the air, sometimes
with a splash of light. I hope I never stop seeing them and am so thankful.
They make me feel not so alone in this experience.
Here's some other "beings" seen:
- Late one night around two months ago glanced up and saw a glowing
geometric light form floating above me. It was so unexpected it took
awhile to even process seeing it.
- Early in the k experience saw little gray figures, like kids stick
drawings, running around the apartment of some wacky people I known.
- Have seen different kinds of light which I feel can be sentient.
Sometimes it has been like snow. Other times sheets of it wending through
a room. Look up in the sky and see sparkling energy.
- Sometimes see fuzzy grey balls (these don't feel "right") whipping
through my apartment.
- See loads of faces in the hypnogogic state. Initially they were just
faces going by rapidly but now they move, sometimes interact with each
other and I think age or change somehow. Also have seen religious figures
and icons. Occasionally dog faces. Once a cat.
- Often see a red and blue spiraling. Think it is the first chakra. Came
back very relaxed from a brief vacation. This time saw the spiraling and
little figures literally flying up from the spiral. Looked like the
Victorian idea of fairies, little bugs and butterflies just rising up.
- Encounters in dreams or upon waking include waking up and someone is
talking to me so insistently and directly that I think no, I must still be
asleep but I'm not.
Wish I could just enjoy the wonder of all this while it is happening. These
experiences don't scare me at first but then my "logical" mind kicks in and
I start analyzing, get frightened and just plain overwhelmed. I try for the
witness state but just don't manage to get there all the time. An
explanation would be great but I don't think we'll get that until we too
are not of this world.
*************
I'll answer your poll - an experience that to me is still one of the
strangest in my K-process!
Yes, once. I had felt that I was in contact with a place far away for a
while. I was told that it was Sirius. I had no idea of it's existence (to me
it was a Greenpeace ship!) One night when I was in great anxiety, I felt
that I was visited by beings from there.
> What form did these beings take?
They were invisible, much bigger than me and I could feel their presence.
They were very awe-inspiring to me...don't know how to say it. I felt an
immense respect for them
> How would you characterize the experience? i.e. terrifying, profound,
> joyful, comical, etc.?
Impressive, profound definitely. I felt they truely came to help me, and
they did. I used to have a poster on my wall with the chakra's, but I never
looked at it at that time. I felt that the beings suddenly put me in front
of my own poster, as if to show me something. They were working on me. After
that moment it was as if my 3rd chakra was unblocked - I am sure that's what
they did. Suddenly energy started pouring in and being sucked out as if an
old machine should start working again. When I met people on the street,
anywhere, after this, this process was continuing for a while. It was scary
to experience (this energy coming in and out with such force) but it seemed
necessary. The beings left after that one night and I never felt contact
with Sirius again.
> Do you have an explanation for them?
No - just what is written above.
************
I have seen them during meditation, or as soon as I close my eyes. But I
have
sensed them sometimes just like energies around..
> What form did these beings take?
I have seen white shining light beings smiling and playing, whey are like
huge balloons of light. Or sometimes their faces looking at me smiling. Full
of white light. They have big eyes, and their energy is very joyful and
playful.
> How would you characterize the experience?
Sweet and amazing !!!! Quite joyful !!!!LOL
I suppose they are from other dimentions.....
or from other realms of reality...
**********
I often see and hear specks of light as they fall. Not one or two,
but hundreds will fall on me and in a small area around me. The
only comparison would be dust-like in size but falling much faster
and each particle having its own energy, brightly charged with its
own white light. All have a sound and are musical, I hear them.
Individual sounds, high pitch, clear and ringing. When they come
together, or touch each becomes musical and all are in harmony
together. I am always reminded of long, thin spiral crystals that
taper off at the bottom. Individually suspended with its own sound
but all needing the other to have sound.
They feel beautiful to me but I am still afraid.
I have just started crying, why?
***********
Wow! This post blew my socks off! Beautiful!
I don't normally see the sprites, but just visualizing them as I
read the post was an oddly familiar shakti rush. I sing silent songs in
my head which are accompanied by pleasant energy pulses moving to the
music. It's a kind of prayer, actually, offered back to the source as a
form of gratitude. I'd love to expererience the melodious photon
rainstorm thing! Sounds wonderful! What's to fear? You are blessed!
Forward with Love! ******************
I was enchanted by your message. I often see something that greatly
resembles those little particles of light you mentioned. Your words
resonnated in a very familiar way within me... Sometimes I see only a
few, sometimes more. Like last week for the first time there were so
many that it was just like looking at the sky on a clear night, but
brighter. The association I've made about them with time is that I have
come to understand them as some kind of confirmation that what ever the
situation I'm in when they appear, I'm on the right track. Although fear
is a normal reaction to anything new that the K experience may bring,
I'm sending you a lovely bouquet of strength, courage and love, hoping
you will quickly overcome fear more and more easily. I believe that with
time you will be able to commune with these magnificent sparcles and
allow yourself to fully receive all that they have to offer you and even
love them right back. I see things like this or any experience that life
or nature has to offer us a bit like a relationship that grows in the
midst of mutual nourishment through love. And the music... well that has
touched me deeply as well as music is to me like the air we breathe. I
hear music a lot, but have not yet experienced it in association
together with the sparcles. How lovely! My sense about the fact that you
started crying is that these magical particles might be helping you to
release emotions. How Beautiful!
Thanks!
**********
this woke up the muse!
Sweet Dreams
Dreams of soaring in the air,
Of time and space be not aware.
Up; and up; and up; to where
There is no pain remorse or care.
And drifting, far the world away
In quiet bliss there cradled sway.
Where tender dreams of rapture may
Console reposing; wake delay.
In particles of magic light
Fall spiral crystals left and right.
Brightly charged with purest white
Teardrops glisten sheer delight.
Sweet wafting music resonates
What only angels can relate.
And undulating dissipates
All but love in blessed state.
In cosmic comfort love refreshed
Receive in vision every quest
With all the joys of life be blest.
Then to awake renewed, from rest.
12/18/02
*********
Usually incredibly huge "beings of light" with either a crystal-like
texture with colors of the prism flowing through them from the light
or slightly whitish and still conveying great light, occasionally with
slightly more precise detailing lately, i.e. a long robe of the same
colouring, something resembling huge wings in the back still of same
colouring, once bearing a crown and a very long cape of a lovely
purple color. One lately was more like my size and was transluscent
but with a texture, a bit like water. They can be very different and
appear individually or in groups. If their energy field expands it can
also happen differently, either in hight and width or in hight only
in which case it will expand tremendously upwards and gowing way down
into the ground also.
> How would you characterize the experience? i.e. terrifying, profound,
> joyful, comical, etc.?
Always a great experience of love that is profoundly calming, peaceful
and transforming. Sometimes varies as to the nature of the impact the
experience will have on me based on what they seem to be representing
or the message they carry, vehicle.
Do you have an explanation for them?
During the experience it's as clear and as certain as the sun.
Afterwards, I prefer being very loose in my interpretation if I do
attempt to explain them. But over time and from experience I tend to
believe that they could be Angels but they may also be some similar
form or "being of light" that might be unknown to me though. It
appears from their intention and their effect that they would be
messengers of some kind of "higher" conscience.
End Thanks everyone! See below for previous posts on the subject!
*********
Poll Question:
Question. Have you experienced beings from "another world."
What form did these beings take?
How would you characterize the experience? i.e. terrifying, profound,
joyful, comical, etc.?
Do you have an explanation for them?
Thanks everybody!
Here are excerpts from fairly recent past posts:
***********
What I found is no beauty. This thing is
about a foot tall looks like a malnurished troll, gray with short
curley hair matted to his body. He has long ape like toes that
he has wrapped around my lower ribs.
********
I touched, my
bed would shake or vibrate on its own (friends would comment on it
to me), I heard voices and saw spirits(?) when no one was there
(friends heard and saw them also, I quickly learned to leave the
first comments about such incidents to them),
*********
I laid back down and tried to get back to that sort of dozing
state I could see the usual movements and stuff in the room but I finally got to that point and this time what I saw was much different there was a round
thing above me up high to the ceiling it was made of the same metal and had
black ball like circles on it it was about the size of a beach ball and it
looked very physical also I got to stare at it a few seconds in amazement
untill it veered off out of the room incredibly fast.
********
Billy explained that this is where somas form when we have
thoughts that do not serve our highest good. Whether we generate them or they
come from some one else doesn't matter, if we hold these thoughts they form a
soma. Somas can manifest as demons, angels, monsters, or just thoughts.
**********
I remember once, rehabilitating a huge crowd of bent faeries by opening
my heart to them so they could see their true selves reflected in that
light... The process gave me the giggles in a very intense way, literally
ROTFL!! for about an hour. Faeries make me giggle.
How I came to be doing that, is a whole other story... :) It is in the
archives somewher
**********As regards light beings, spirits and other worlds, I am finding
that I'm
becoming far more receptive to them, and they are beginning to offer me
help. I woke from a dream a few mornings ago after hearing a very clear
message. The voice said, "Work with the little people. The little people
need your help." I'm not quite sure what this means yet, but I'm sure I'll
find the answer eventually. I had been reading a lot about light beings
working around our planet, and I decided to let them know that I was open to
their guidance and wisdom.
At the counselling centre where I work, I tuned into the centre deva,
which
happened to be the Archangel Gabriel. I've never done this before but
decided to do it after reading a book by William Bloom called Working with
Angels, Fairies and Nature Spirits. I heard cracks and pops in the room, I
felt the presence around my throat and head and energy running from my crown
right through my chakras to the floor via my legs and feet. I got a clear
message to keep my work calm, compassionate and simple
**********
I was lying in bed this morning, minding my own business, halfway between
sleep and wakefulness, fighting the fact that it was just about time to get
up, milking a last half-hour of sleep out of the night.
I heard footsteps out in the hallway, and it sort of tied into a dream I'd
been having, but it didn't feel like the dream. I was a bit frightened,
but still locked in sleep, so to speak. It was shuffling steps, like
someone dragging their slippers over the floor as they went.
I was afraid, but I managed to muster the courage to ask who was there --
that struggling half-asleep speak that tries to use your real vocal chords
instead of your dream vocal chords, so that you can't quite get it out.
I got an answer . . . "It's ___________ (a three-syllable name that i can't
recall for the life of me). Don't you remember?"
I didn't remember, and whatever/whoever it was scared me. It was female,
that much I know, and she came to the bedroom door and walked into the
room, while I pleaded with her not to scare me. I turned my real head
towards the door and managed to open my eyes just as she crossed the
threshold, and of course she disappeared as soon as I opened my eyes.
"Oh, you're just in my dream," I said.
***********
I remember one time, I fell asleep meditating lying on my couch. There
was an English guy, rummaging through my fridge and complaining that there
was nothing he wanted to eat. I told him there was some bread in the
downstairs fridge, if he wanted to make a sandwich. He wanted me to cook
for him, I was aware my body was on the couch, and I could not move it.
Later, when I really woke up, I went "what the hell?" and booted the
uninvited visitor.
*********
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