To: K-list
Recieved: 2002/12/17 15:03
Subject: [K-list] Guidelines! Read them or suffer the wrath of the List Dragon. Was: posting to the list.
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
On 2002/12/17 15:03, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:
At 12:31 PM 17/12/02, you wrote:
>Dear Mystress Angelique
>
>Sorry about that for only replying privately to you, I had read the Guidelines for netiquette, I was a good 'Newbie'.
Good newbie. Here is yer pat on the head. (smack!) ;)
????? Your posting to me privately was appropriate. I did not respond yet because I am very busy, and the answer to your question would be a lengthy essay, which I thought had been adequately covered in the links I sent. The short answer is, the soul usually does not take form and personality like you describe. The long answer... will have to wait for another day. Or perhaps you would like to book a session with me?
http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/spirit/healsess.htm
Even so, I probably would not have time for it till the new year... sorry!
If you do post it to the list, perhaps someone else will write an essay for you. Lots of wise folks here! Like it says in the guidelines:
> The fact of my administering this list should not be taken to mean that I consider myself an expert on Kundalini, although many others do consider me exactly that. Professionally I am a Shaktipat Master and spiritual healer specializing in the Kundalini process, but to my mind, the list is owned by the community and I do not spam, or allows others to spam.
>
> Kundalini is the energy of limitless manifestation, and everyone's experience of awakening is unique as snowflakes. I don't think anyone can claim to be an expert on the Infinite, but there are many Masters here, of different disciplines who offer their help and wisdom to those who express a desire for it.
Bwahahahahaaaaaaaa!! Spam spam spam. Here is that link, again!
http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/spirit/healsess.htm
It was some other posts that I was referring to... including one longtime member who accidentally replied to the owner address. (private to the person who thanked me for forwarding their post. I didn't. I guess you want me to?)
Since you did not include your post to me in this, I am really not sure what your point is?
<shrug>
I also seem to be sending out more "please snip" reminders lately... sigh.
PLEASE SNIP, DAMMIT!!!!
:)
Spent 2 days this week deleting e-groups spam from the year 2000 archives, and snipping a few unsnipped posts. Why? ADD hyperfocus sucked me in.
Come Jan, I will be adding the year 2001, 2002 archives to the gateway site.. and I think they may be as much as all other years combined! Yay, successful list!! .. but whoa bandwidth/web storage bills! LOL!! :) Unsnipped posts really add to the archive bandwidth...
PLEASE SNIP, DAMMIT!!!!
:)
(Private to someone else who asked me to remove her naughtiness from the archives. The answer is No. We get this request often, and it is annoying. It says right on the list description page that the archives are public, and so there ya go, posting is consent. The archives retain their integrity. The most we will do is remove your name... and then only if having the post in the archives is disruptive to your business image... in which case you ought to be posting under a pseudonym in the first place! Get a brain! Anything else... image=ego, deal with it. I've got more old embarrassing flame wars in the archive than anyone, I ought to know! )
In other news, someone with an apple computer reported that the link to the list FAQ was making their computer freeze up. Heh, I heard a mac was crash proof! Apparently not... (Me pc user! hee heehee ) but all grins aside, I am wondering if anyone else who uses a mac is having trouble with the gateway site? Email me privately. Thanks. Do not expect a reply.
After receiving this info, I spent much of my morning, editing the list guidelines into a plaintext file to add to the shared files... ATnospam%#&(%%$!!! yahoo webform does not wordwrap! Adding line breaks to a 30k document is really really boooooooring. You can see it has had an effect on my poor braaaiiiiin!!!
This fabulous document is also now set to be sent to all new subscribers... something Hillary and I were working on doing last year, but got sidetracked. Just for good measure, I'm posting it here and now! No more excuses!!
PS: to Hillary: If you are up for it, would you update the gateway K-list FAQ with the shared files version? I'm on a deadline for the cement mud pies... I have to ship them off soon for them to arrive by X-mas. HARDEN, DAMMIT! (to the pies...)
ooo time for a nice hot bath... I hate X-mas, bah humbug. Yippy Yule!!!
http://www.crystalforest3.homestead.com/Yulechantssongs.html
http://sanfords.net/Pagan_Humor_and_Thoughts/Pagan_Yule_songs.htm
http://www.msu.edu/user/rohdemar/earth/sabbats/yule.html
http://members.tripod.com/~Willow_Firesong/Frames/tuneHome.html
http://www.hope-of-israel.org/christ~2.htm
POSTING GUIDELINES AND NETTIQUITE FOR THE K-LIST.
This document contains the posting guidelines and
nettiquite for posting to the K-list, as well as other
useful information about this list community.
Please take a moment to read it before posting to
the list, or you may experience confusion and cause
disruption to the smooth functioning of the list.
This list is set up differently from some other lists
you may be on.
The K-list was created in June, 1996. It is the
oldest and most successful Kundalini email list on
the web, and has become a very strong and thriving
community.
"When in Rome.." Blessings..
WHAT IS A MAILING LIST?
A mailing list is a sort of e-mail discussion forum.
Members can send email messages to the posting address,
which are then forwarded to everyone who is on the
membership list. Other members can then respond to the
list or to the member privately. The latter is
sometimes referred to as "taking it off line".
A chain of messages on a particular topic is called a
thread.
The subscription list is hidden. No one has access,
except the moderators. If you choose to subscribe,
you can be certain that your name and address will
not be given to anyone. All identities are hidden,
unless you choose to reveal yourself by posting.
This is a publicly archived list, posting to the
list is giving consent for your post to be archived.
You are welcome to post under a pseudonym.
List archives:
http://www.kundalini-gateway.org/klist/
Yahoogroups list archives:
messages
The archives at both sites are searchable.
This list is hosted at
This document can also be found in html format at
http://www.kundalini-gateway.org/k-list_faq.html
This list also has a very large domain website which
contains the list archives going back to 1996, and
lots of useful information about Kundalini.
http://www.kundalini-gateway.org
Additional useful information about how to handle
the Kundalini process may be found here:
http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/spirit/kindex.htm
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LIST INTENTIONS
This list is for the free exchange of information,
advice and friendship among those interested in,
undergoing, or in any way involved with the awakening
of Kundalini energy.
By the very nature of the phenomena, such a process
touches upon every aspect of life. As a result, this
list is set up to be a forum in which list members
should feel able to post openly on any subject which
is related to this topic.
Where two or more are gathered" works in cyberspace.
The shared energy of the membership tends to increase
the incidence of synchronicity on this list. Likely
that same synchronicity brought you here. Welcome!
If you have questions about your process, or
experiences you would like to share, in order to
understand them better, feel free to post to the list
about them. No matter how crazy your experiences seem,
most likely there is someone on the list who has been
there, too. You can also check the archives and see
what has been posted about the topic, previously.
List archives:
http://www.kundalini-gateway.org/klist/
Yahoogroups list archives:
messages
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POSTING GUIDELINES AND NETTIQUITE FOR THE KUNDALINI LIST:
"When in Rome...."
These guidelines were created by asking the
original members, what kind of list they wanted and
polling again periodically when the guidelines are
in contention. They are by the community, and for
the community. Time tested and true.
Please respect them.
1.) Please remember to snip!
Don't quote any more of a post in your reply
than necessary. The optimum is not to quote anything
at all except a line or two to put your comment in
perspective.
DO NOT post "I agree" notes to the list, especially
do not post "I agree" notes which quote a long post.
The list is set up so "reply" goes only to the
author of the post to encourage members to send
"I agree" or "thank you for sharing" messages
directly to the author, not to the list.
Your fellow list members thank you, especially
those on the digest version of the list, and those in
countries where bandwidth and phone time is charged
by the minute. Additionally, unsnipped posts create
a lot of additional expense of bandwidth, for hosting
the archives.
2.) Take "private" jokes, conversations, etc.
off line. Do not post anything which is of interest
to only one person, to the list address. Send it to
them directly. Remember: everything which is posted
to the list is rebroadcast to more than 800 people.
Keep this in mind, and post privately whenever
appropriate. This is treating others with respect
and consideration.
3.) Please do not send anything to the list that
you have not written yourself. Brief quotes in the
context of a conversation are acceptable, anything
more, kindly provide a reference instead, or put it
on a website or in the shared files, and post the URL
so people can look it up if they are interested.
Please remember that this is a discussion list, not a
library or soapbox for preaching.
Do not send chain letters of any form, including
virus warnings, charity requests, petitions, jokes,
lucky charms or other warnings. Do not post anything
that asks you to forward it to all your friends.
There are no exceptions, no matter how important you
think your cause may be.
Do not forward posts from another list. If you want
to share a website, please send the URL, with a brief
description of the site content; do not repost the
content itself. Be respectful of the author's copyrights.
Do not spam the list. Members who spam the list will
be put on moderated status immediately, and possibly
banned from the list altogether. If you wish to
advertise your Kundalini-related services or website,
then do so by adding a sig file of not more than
three lines to the bottom of your list posts, so it
appears to members when you *participate* in the
list discussions.
Bandwidth is a shared resource, and must be
prioritized for discussions about Kundalini, member's
experiences, and support for those seeking assistance
with their process. People who join the list agree
to receive discussions about Kundalini. Some of them
live in countries where they pay for phone charges,
and bandwidth by the minute. They pay to receive your
messages, please make it worth their while.
4.) Try to make the subject header convey the topic
of the post accurately. This will really pay dividends
to you and others. Take the extra 10 seconds. This will
help the rest of the list members find the posts that
are of interest to them. In addition, you will find
that more people will read your post.
5.) Please exercise respectful discernment in
your posting. This is a multi denominational, global
cross-cultural list that is enriched by the variety
of opinions and experiences of it's membership. Be
respectful of the spiritual beliefs of other members.
Every path is the right path, for the individual who
is on it.
In particular, the topic of diet and Kundalini
tends to spark very polarized and dogmatic views,
and is best avoided altogether. We have created a
separate list for those who wish to discuss it.
The URL for the other K-lists is further down on this page.
6.) Flame wars on this list are very rare, but at
some times, postings can get emotionally charged.
Particularly at full moons and solstices when the
Earth energy runs high and many karmic issues are
brought up to be resolved within individuals, it can
spark passionate conflict on the list.
People who may be experiencing such a K. crisis
need your patience and understanding. Try to resist
the impulse to jump into the fray and fan the flames
higher. If you cannot be compassionate, please
remember you have a delete key. Also please remember
that there are many empathically sensitive people on
the list who would rather not feel your anger or
aggressive energy.
7.) There are a few topics which are very emotionally
charged, and seem to promote cyclical flame wars, every
time the topic comes up. Particularly, diet and world
politics. As a result separate lists have been set up
for these topics and any postings about them should be
directed there instead of to the main K-list.
Food, nutrition, vegan vs. omnivore, etc. please post to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kundalini_foodfights/
Kundalini and reactions to the 9/11 incident:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/k911/
Kundalini can be very sexual in its effects.
The main list is "all ages" so please move discussions
about adult topics such as sexual Kundalini experiences
to the adult-only Kundalini_sexATnospamyahoogroups.com list.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kundalini_sex/
Kundalini and BDSM sexuality is discussed here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/k_goddess/ Additional K related lists that are part of the
K-list family of lists:
Kundalini and UFO's, Ascension, Armageddon,
Earth Changes. Kundalini Phenomena, psychic,
paranormal list.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kundalini_p/
Kundalini and Shamanism.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/k_shamans/
For information about other K-related lists visit:
http://www.kundalini-gateway.org/k_kids.html
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On a lighter note, this list should be viewed as
a resource of trusted colleagues and fellow travellers.
A lot has been said about the dangers of Kundalini.
http://www.kundalini-gateway.org/warn.html
But there are also great wonders and joys which
seem to increase proportionately with time and growth.
Are you experiencing emotions in a different way
than before? How so? Have you ever experienced
synchronicity? What was your experience of awakening
like? Do you view kundalini as a purely scientific process?
How and why?
Other list members would be very interested in
reading about it. Please feel free to introduce
yourself and share about your Kundalini experiences
and views.
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POSTING TO THE LIST.
The Posting address is
Any message sent to the posting address is
automatically re-sent to every one on the list.
**Make sure that this is what you want to do!**
The list has over 800 members worldwide and growing.
Posts should be sent in plain text format without
fonts, styled text, HTML, backgrounds, colors or
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A hint: If you use your mail reader to
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you will be sending private email to whoever wrote that
particular post. No one else will be able to see what
you write. If your subscription is set to "web only"
then you will need to paste in the posting address.
****The list is set up so that "reply" will send
your post only to the author you are responding to,
and "reply to all" will respond to the author and CC:
a copy to the list. This is to encourage members to
thank each other privately for sharing.
It is considerate, when using "reply to all", to
edit out the extra member addresses, and only send it
to the list so the members you are responding to don't
get duplicate copies of your post.
Please set your subscription to "no mail" if you
are using an auto-responder while on vacation, to avoid
creating an endless loop and inconveniencing all 800+
members!
**IF YOUR POSTS ARE NOT GETTING THRU TO THE LIST
mostly likely the error is at your end. Check that you
are clicking on reply to all and not just reply.
Make sure you are sending mail to the correct posting
address, not to the author or the owner address.
Make sure you are posting from the same email address
that you are subscribed from. If you try to post from
a different address than is on the member list, the
spam-filter will stop your post from getting through
to the list.
Sometimes yahoo is just slow, so wait a while to
see if your post goes through rather than impatiently
re- posting the same message many times, only to have
them all show up to the list later.
WEB-ONLY MEMBERS.
If you are posting to the list from the yahoogroups
site, it is suggested that you copy and paste the text
into notepad or some other plain text editor to write.
Then paste it back to the yahoo form, to send it.
That way, if the browser crashes, or if you
accidentally click on a link or the message does not
show up, you have a backup copy.
When you hit reply the message will only go to the
author, so you may have to paste in the list address.
Once you have pasted it in once, it will appear when
you double click on the address window again.THE DIGEST OPTION.
A digest option is available. When subscribed to
the digest, the postings are grouped together and
mailed to you at one time; either when the file
reaches 42k in size, or when the oldest message is
two days old. To adjust your subscription to get the
digest version, please go to the yahoogroups.com site.
All posts will show up on both the regular list and on
the digest. So, there is no advantage to subscribing to
both lists, aside from convenience. You can also set
your list membership to "web-only" and read the mail
and post from the yahoo website.
If responding to a digest post, please adjust the
subject line to reflect the thread you are responding
to, and make sure you snip out all the other messages,
so you are not re-posting the entire digest back to
the list.
LIST OWNER ADDRESS.
The List Owner Address is where problems and
questions should be sent. All mail to this address
is read by the K-list team of moderators.
ANONYMOUS POSTING.
Lurking and posting are both equally fine.
But please do not feel afraid to post!
If you have something which you feel would be
relevant or interesting, but are hesitant or shy
for whatever reason, please send the post to
Kundalini-Gateway-ownerATnospamyahoogroups.com
with a note that you would like it to be posted
anonymously. I will make sure to remove your name
and header information, and will post to the list
from my own account. That way, you can participate
in the list according to your own comfort level.
At the same time, we can benefit from your wisdom and
insight! We definitely all need each other, the
comfort of shared experience is the greatest benefit
of membership in this cyberspace community.
The quiet voices sometimes go unnoticed.
Let yours be heard.
The list is publicly archived, so if you do not
want your name on your posts, please get a free
email account such as provided by yahoo.com and
post under a pseudonym.
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LIST TRAVELS.
The posting address for the K-list has changed
over the history of the list. Originally established
as the Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, June 1996.
Relocated to KundaliniATnospamList-Server.net, Dec. 31, 1998.
Relocated again when Esosoft.com, the host of
List.server.net moved it lists to Topica.com Dec.1999.
Relocated again to Kundalini-GatewayATnospamonelist.com
17 Jan 2000 by the will of the members, who didn't
like Topica.com.
Onelist.com has now merged with Egroups.com, which
then became Yahoogroups.com
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BACKGROUND TO THE LIST.
by El Collie.
In July, 1995, Haakon Rian Ueland began a sporadic
digest-form Kundalini mailing list (the first one on
the Internet to my knowledge). A few months later,
Bill Peay put together the Kundalini Resource Center
to provide a broader information base on the Internet.
At that time, Bill introduced himself as KRC's
webmaster and named Haakon as its host.
In November '95, El Collie and C. Kress (who had
been publishing the Kundalini-support newsletter
Shared Transformation since 1993) created their
website of the same name.
In May '96, Richard Satin, one of the original
Shared Transformation "Friends Online," volunteered
to begin another Kundalini mail list (Haakon's was
defunct by then). I sent Richard 50 email addresses
of everyone who had by that time contacted Shared
Transformation regarding Kundalini. Richard notified
them all about the new K-list. About 30 of them
responded, including Bill Peay, who gave the early
list its home page on KRC, where it rapidly built
up membership.
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HISTORY. By the List Mystress.
The list began in June 1996. I joined the list
late that August. I actually visited the site a few
times and joined other lists, but with this one my
inner voice said "wait." It knew what I did not, that
this list would become a full time job for me and
transform all my paradigms.
Soon after I joined, Richard disappeared and later
announced that he was not enjoying the job and wanted
to pass it on. I had been informally stepping into his
empty shoes already, soothing flame wars and chasing
off disruptive people. I was willing to take on the
rest of it but I had some things scheduled that would
take a few months.
In Feb 1997 Richard Satin officially turned over
the list and the original website to me. On New Years
Eve 1999, after a Dec. firestorm of hostility from the
new hosts of the KRC attempting a takeover, I moved
the K-list and website from it's original address on
the Execpc.com server, to a new server, and since then
the K-list has moved many times and the site has been
changed considerably and moved to its own domain.
Tending to this beautiful garden has been a
wonderfully rewarding experience, and it is my
resolve that the list shall exist for so long and
there are people finding value in it. Some of those
people in turn contribute to the list by volunteering
to co-moderate the list or help with the website.
This community and the website is supported by me,
and by donations. Donations gratefully accepted!
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SHAKTI-ZAP ON-LINE.
This is a playful term we use on the list to
describe the effect of Kundalini Shakti being
transmitted through cyberspace. Where your attention
goes, your energy naturally follows. The creative
attention some members put into writing is naturally
transmitted as Shakti energy by email to the receptive.
Since the early days of the list, it has been
observed that some members notice symptoms of
increased Kundalini Shakti energy while reading the
list mail. Shakti rides the net! The Shakti of the
author clings to the messages and may cause symptoms
like feelings of warmth, sweating or emotional release.
This is not something to be concerned about, in fact
most members enjoy the effect and find this informal
Shaktipat very beneficial to their process. A very
few members find themselves "acting out" as a side
effect of the Shakti-zap stirring up their karmic
issues, so be aware of this possibility if you find
the list mail is triggering you emotionally.
In the beginning of the list history, the
Shakti-zapped list mail crashed the list-serv computer
and member computers enough times to prompt me to set
up a small magical enhancement to separate the
energetic transmission from the computer process of
email.
This enhancement was manifested with the assistance
of the higher selves of members past present and
future, (that means you!) then the results were
surrendered to Goddess; handed over to the Divine
to maintain.
This magical structure is benign, functional.
It also seems to act as a kind of spiritual beacon or
billboard that lights up to people who are asking
where they can find out more about the odd sensations
and paranormal events they have been experiencing, and
wondering if there are others like themselves.
The energy structure is not invasive or controlling,
it is more like a billboard on the astral highway that
advertises the list existence to those interested in
what the list offers. The list already had tremendous
synchronicity in how new members were led to it, like
I had been, and the side effect of protecting the
electrical connections only enhanced it. Enjoy!
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LIST OWNER AND MODERATORS
The K-list is not a moderated list.
The owner and Moderator role is mostly to handle the
administrivia of running a large list, and to remind
members of the list guidelines when it appears they
have been forgotten. My preference would be for
members to always read and respect the guidelines
without ever needing to be nagged or reminded that
the guidelines are for the common good.
If I or one of the moderators reminds you of a
guideline, do not take it personally, except to ask
yourself what ego issue you are feeding, by not
respecting the guidelines?
I do not moderate the list or censor posts, altho
in extremis I have the power to remove a troublemaker
from the list or block them from posting. I consider
that a very last resort, as sometimes members in
K-crisis can behave oddly, and are in need of
compassion, not rejection.
The fact of my administering this list should not
be taken to mean that I consider myself an expert on
Kundalini, although many others do consider me
exactly that. Professionally I am a Shaktipat Master
and spiritual healer specializing in the Kundalini
process, but this list is a volunteer job, a calling
and a hobby. I consider the list to be owned by the
members and I do not spam for my services, or allow
others to spam or proselytize.
Kundalini is the energy of limitless manifestation,
and everyone's experience of awakening is unique as
snowflakes. I don't think anyone can claim to be an
*expert* on the Infinite, but there are many Masters
here, of different disciplines who offer their help
and wisdom to those who express a desire for it.
Blessings, List Mystress.
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Thank you for reading this document.
Please file it for future reference.
If you lose your copy, it is archived in the
shared files section of the yahoogroups website in
text only form:
files/
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