To: K-list
Recieved: 2002/12/10 11:22
Subject: Re: [K-list] Help, Advice and Websites
From: Druout
On 2002/12/10 11:22, Druout posted thus to the K-list:
In a message dated 12/10/2002 5:27:31 AM Pacific Standard Time,
gregorATnospamaberdour.force9.co.uk writes:> Can you help; I am not in a good way with kundalini. I don't know what to
> do. My cousin has said she would help to drive me down to a guru down south
> but see doesn't believe in the kundalini. Can you send me some web address
> that explain it and also the bad effects it can have?
Dear Gregor,
Good to hear from you! :)) I'm sorry you are still suffering so.
The first part of this is pretty easy. :)) It is El Collie's Signs and
symptoms which is mirrored on our Kundalini-Gateway site. Others may come up
with other web sites, but I think this is still pretty much the gold
standard.
http://www.kundalini-gateway.org/ksigns.html
The following site refers to Itzhak Bentov's studies on possible
physiological bases for K. It also talks a bit about sound.
http://fusionanomaly.net/kundalini.html
I wouldn't think of being hard on you! :)) Kundalini is never easy, even
for those of us who have had a gentle time of it.
You seem to have answered your own questions, for the most part. You are
gradually seeing what works for you and what doesn't. From you letter I
would say that TM definitely does *not* work. Perhaps it will again sometime
in the future, but certainly not at present.
You also know that if you meditate, you are sure to get some adverse
symptoms--that you will be in for a bout of pain. The good part of this is
that it is under your control--you can choose to meditate and accept some
pain, or not, as you wish.
You know by this time that the energy is not going to kill you and that the
pain from the energy is temporary, caused by bringing up the energy through
meditation.
I can understand that you want to get beyond this uncomfortable period of the
energy causing you pain, and I understand that you don't want to completely
give up on the energy entirely for fear that your body will become even less
able to accommodate it. You seem, by trial and error, to be able to, as you
put it, "feel in the body where the energy comes up for a while and then goes
back down." I think this is a great way of keeping the body tuned gently to
the energy without overdoing it.
Stretching exercises will probably really help you. Rubbing the body with
oils of various sorts might help with the skin problem. It probably can't
hurt, at least. (others probably can help here). Usually with pain it helps
to try to become one with the pain instead of trying to fight it. Not easy
to do, I know.
Remember, that meditation is only one of the many triggers to Kundalini.
Physical exercise (yoga, t'ai chi) and gentle breathing exercises might help
even out the energy. Many people have suggested you try alternate nostril
breathing. Have you tried it?
http://www.holisticonline.com/Yoga/hol_yoga_breathing-ex-nadisodh.htm
The main thing, though, is you must have patience. Gradually you will see
that your body can withstand the energy. Things may not be as they were
before, but you can make adjustments if you simply accept the energy and
realize you haven't done anything wrong, but that the energy is doing what it
needs to do.
We don't know much about your day to day life. Perhaps it's time to make
some changes in your life style??
Love, Hillary> I don't know what to do! If I mediate the energy enters my body and it feel
> ok but then it works its way outward to the skin and when it reaches the
> skin noises become so painful and all the nerve ending in my skin feels
> like they are on fire.
>
> I feel if I stop meditating my body will become less able to handle the
> energy, but if I do meditate the energy that comes in is often too much
> especially for the skin. I am in a catch 22 and I don't know what to do. Do
> you understand? I can't really meditate but the longer I don't meditate the
> less "fit" my body become as a vessel for the energy. How do I condition my
> body to handle the energy without actually raising the Kundalini? The best
> I can do is feel in the body where the energy comes up for a while and then
> goes back down. I feel Such a strong desire to use my TM mantra but if a do
> all hell breaks loose. If only there was something I could do to help
> myself and stop beating myself up. I am close to suicide.
>
> Please if you are answering from the list and you want to come down hard on
> me or tell me off for not being grateful for K please DON'T I am in a bad
> enough state as it is with out extra criticism. But if you feel there is
> something you can say to help or feel I have missed something, please help.
>
> Gregor
>
>
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