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Recieved: 2002/12/06 04:54
Subject: [K-list] (not)Feeling pain, some experiences.
From: OssO

Nice posts about the pineal gland, as a scientific oriented person I
just love that subject. I am very intrested about the physical changes
and brain chemisty changings during awakening.

About this pain.

At summer when kundalini was active big time, I used to go with my
kickboard (btw, a very grounding way to travel). Once I was going pretty
fast and I asked myself: "Is it possible to fall with this now, when the
kundalini is strong with me?" The answed came in few seconds, and I fell
to the asphalt. Anyway, I was not hurt, and there was no pain, and if
there was some, I did not notice it at all. At that moment when I was
flying to the ground, my biggest problem wasn´t my body, but that the
man who saw me close, and got scared. When I hit the ground I completely
forgot myself, and I only wanted to say the man, that it´s okay, don´t
be upset.
Only afterwards I thought that something could have happened to me.
This same situation happened to me again few days later, with same
thougths. Again I was more worried about those people who saw me, and
that they would not be upset, or lose their mental stability for me.
Physical reality did not matter, only the peace of mind (Althought at
that time I was very much into buddhist thinking -material is an
illusion.)

(Here I think I had this non-dualistic wiew, and I was not attached to
myself and my own feelings. When the mind is calm and peacefull, it
resonates with minds of other people around.. Some kind of collective
conscious I believe in. ESP stuff..)

Unfortunately, later I lost my wonderfull kickboard somewhere, and I´m a
bit sad for that. But maybe it was ment so, that wouldn´t hurt myself
when the kundalini later wouldn´t be so strong.

I´m not sure about the guardiand angels´s, or my higher selfs role in
these happenings, but some protecting forces there are.
Im seeing it like this. When the vibration of my lightbody is high,
nothing bad cannot happen to me, it´s completely impossible, and agaist
the rules of the nature. When something bad is going to happen at some
point in the future, my higher self sees it forehand and lowers my
vibration level by the time the bad is about to happen.
Of course this might be pure bullshit, but it´s a way of seeing it. Shit
happens only when you (unconsciously) feel like it.

ossi
> Enlightenment relieves suffering, not pain -- big difference.
Enlightenment changes one's relationship to pain because
> one is no longer felt to be an individual person to whom the pain is
> happening. But as far as I know, pain is always possible as long as
there is
> a body around. Holly

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