To: K-list
Recieved: 2002/11/15 12:38
Subject: [K-list] Lobster stuff and nonsense
From: Edjason
On 2002/11/15 12:38, Edjason posted thus to the K-list:
> Did I hit a nerve inside the shell? Perhaps because your own emails are
> sometimes backdated? :) Sometimes I don't find them for days, they appear
> above the visible posts in my inbox.
[shrug]
You have more integrity than
'hitting nerves for the sake of it'
my computer clock is now set correctly
(hence the past time differentials) > >1. It is fraudulent to imply or behave as if one is better
> >than someone else - either in knowledge (I should know)
> >in 'spiritual' experience (in my experience)
>
> I didn't. I simply pointed out that the hidden cost of theft can be
> higher than the price of what is stolen. No bargain, in the long term.
> Sharing an idea I have found value in, just as you do. Your mileage may vary.
It is a general not specific comment.
You do imply this as has been pointed
out. If you do not feel you have
how shall I put it
- an inflated sense of capacity?
- coming via goddess . . . ?
Then I have no discrimination
or common sense (possible I suppose)> Yet... it appears you are suggesting my implication is fraudulent and
> yours is superior. (shrug) If you like. Does it matter?
Ultimately no.
You do not operate on the level of Ultimate.
That I behave in a superior and arrogant manner
- no doubt. I own it.
Superior to you is not something
I like, request or need.
What is inferior is to allow others
to collude in ones need for pretending
one is not getting something
from being Mother Superior.
It is a posture you allow
and in my estimation
(superior, arrogant or otherwise)
seems to matter a great deal to some people . . .
Does that matter.
Ultimately no
Neither of us is on the level of
'It is all Goddess anyway'.
> I am sure there are few members who were around when I deputized you
> Kundalini cop. :) I have not forgotten. As I recall, the designation had
> something to do with my extreme aggravation at your tendency to post my
> private mail to the list.
What you do and say to me in private
(being an 'Ultimate does it matter'
type of person - in theory)
is Public
Just as God is everywhere.
(has the nerve gone?)
Or are you still ashamed that
I showed that you were a very pleasant
person when not strutting your nonsense
Angelique you can not deputise, collar,
enslave anyone without their compliance
This is not the attitude of adults.
If people come to you as if you are superior
and you do not empower them
- instead talking to them as people you help,
deputise, practice tough love on
etc etc
then the ego dominance will remain.
And that is the angry child . . .
I can only say that you have much to
learn that you behave as if known.
Your demeanor is still of one who
wishes and attempts dominance.
I understand this tendency.
> >There is a Sufi saying:
> >'To do good to the bad
> >may be as bad as doing bad to the good'
>
> Hmm... Thank you. I grok the truth of that, intuitively and
> experientially... but it would be a hazardous motto for me to adopt. My
> shadow would get a lot of mileage out of it, being a sadist and all... Then
> again, is my Zen stick really Zen if I have to exercise discernment and
> *think* about when to use it?
Yes it is true
but as you say quite dependent
(in the practising) of having overcome our tendencies.> >Boot the fat ass! Boot the fat ass!
> >(it is the courteous thing to do :-)
>
> I considered that. Pondered whether it would be kindest for Joyce to be
> removed from the Shaktizap online that sends her off on these ... um...
> dramatic episodes. Shakti can make ya crazy, if there is not surrender.
> Crazier... :)
Well I feel that booting whilst in position
(thereby allowing response and help)
is the correct form of addressing this.
Again in Sufism - the ego
is described as a donkey or ass
and an inflated one would then be
a 'big booty' in modern parlance
> I am a lurker on all the K-lists, I have seen her posting elsewhere so
> I know she does have other support resources that do not affect her like
> this one does.
I notice there is a spiritual K-list and will
probably move on to there ;-)
> >As I have a tendency towards
> >beating people into spirituality
>
> Oh, I hadn't noticed! ;)
LOL
In the Tibetan lineage
One of the Siddha Masters
calls back his spiritual descendant
for one last lesson.
"This is my last lesson"
The student waits.
The master turns around
draws up his robe . . .
and moons him . . .
Boot the fat ass! Boot the fat ass!
> >I have to be very careful
> >about my berserker ViKin tendencies.
> >Just as those with a lust to weld
> >the stick need to be aware of their
> >preferences interfering with the
> >needs of the situation.
>
> You bet! I know I am a sadist, I like whacking people. Whacking them
> with their own karma reflected and using my empathy to dissect them like a
> bug, especially if they have left themselves vulnerable by attacking
> someone, is as intoxicating as Joyce found her halloween vampire game to
> be. Predatory. Pleasurable. Raaaar. :)
:-)
> Blessings...
:-) ==============
> Dear Lobster,
>
> Well :)) I feel this list belongs to us all. Why makes you think otherwise?
Dear Hilary :-)
Exactly so
It was referred to in a manner
that implied otherwise.
The important thing is that
people make what use of it they can :-)> Interesting you would think so! LOL! Whenever I sense Angelique striking
> out because she sounds "vulnerable." I look to see what I am missing. :))
We always miss things
It is a question of what is pretence (Lobster)
and what real.
> It's very easy to respond to "hostile" posts with compassionate
> sweetness--especially when the hostility is leveled at us. Sweetness shields
> one from being accused of self protection. "Hostility" may be diffused with
> gentleness, but the pain that caused the hostile response in the first place
> remains.
Very well said.
This is also why
(as you no doubt are aware)
kindness may provoke hostility
(any door-mats here?)
The important thing is acting with
integrity in our being
acknowledging our faults and
using any capacity we have
to provide according to genuine
knowing and service
(not agrandisement)
I do not question the wisdom
in what you see because
it feels integrated and wholesome :-)========== to think one can
wake anyone from slumber
is purely egotistical.
(Zzzzzzz...)Quite so
Nothing is fool-proof to
the determined fool.
However in all things are possibilities,
imaginings and capacity.
The useless in us thinks there is
nothing to improve (everything is perfect)
The imagined in us feels we
are sufficiently refined and
able to be at peace
and our actual capacity is how we move
from the imagined perfection into our
Real Being.
For example (as she wishes to be an example)
Angelique bemoans her inability (a lack of wisdom)
to dissuade people from elevating her status . . .
Sufis have a simple methodology
they find out what is unattractive
to the people they are attracting
and display this behaviour.
And Lo - People come no more.
The truth is that elevation
and inflation (is the requested
interaction) - that is why it continues to come.
A simple question Angelique
- if you really wanted "No attention"
how easy would it be - or is there
a form of delusion occurring?
In NLP it is said,
"the request is in the response it illicits"
=== you can do better? ==========
It seems that Mullah Nasrudin
was once again telling his favourite joke.
Everybody had heard it hundreds of times.
On finishing the Mullah ROTFL (Rolled On The Floor Laughing).
Everyone else was unaffected.
'Mullah why is it you never grow tired of this joke?'
'What,' said Nasrudin catching his breath, 'makes you think
I am laughing at THAT joke . . .'
===== you CAN DO better! ========================
make sure you update your virus software
in case of them Internet Goblins twikkin and tweeting . . .
Here is a good link to freeware software
that is every bit as good as commercial
software (AVG) http://www.grisoft.com
It has stopped many a delightful virus . . .
========================
Here is something on the Tarot for those
so inclined . . . some of the old timers are probably
familiar with all that stuff . ..
http://pages.britishlibrary.net/lobster/tarot/What else?
Oh yes - went to see the new Web Site
'Kundalini Corp.' seems to be doing well.
Good to see slaves, volunteers and
other interested parties working to
provide much needed development :-)
What happened to Goddess TV from
Hotel Serpent?======================
I suppose I better say something about
Kundalini . . .
[Cructacean thinks extra hard]
m m m . . .
[more Cructacean thinking]
Nah! - Never believed in it anyway . . . :-)
Remember Be Kind (you know it makes sense)
Lobster
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