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Recieved: 2002/11/15 04:03
Subject: RE: [K-list] Scientific Method in Religious Practice
From: Rich
On 2002/11/15 04:03, Rich posted thus to the K-list:
Oooh... Friday afternoon... I feel my tentacles stretching out..
> Scientific Method in Religious Practice
>
> Introduction
> Many people tend to view religion as something totally opposite to
> science, as a blind faith of intellectually weak people, who never
> bother themselves with searching for any proof...
Who would these many people be? Are all people looking for proof?
> Yes, this kind of religiosity does exist...
> But there is also another kind of religion - that of reasonable
> people - adepts of which make real efforts on self-transformation
> according to the God's design. It is in this case that there exists a
> possibility of using a scientific method for attainment of the
> Highest religious Purpose - a complete spiritual Self-
> Realization.
What is a reasonable person.... Some 'One' who reasons? :)
Is all religion focussed on self-transformation? What about acceptance
and coming to terms with what is?
Thou shall not confuse spirituality with religion.... Do each have the
same means and same ends?
Who decided on this highest religious pupose?
> The studying of psychoemotional states with the help of
> encephalographs does not provide scientists with the complete picture
> of what a person experiences; this is but a reflection, a projection
> of reality onto the "material" plane.
OR a projection of objectivity into common reality.
> But in the same way new discoveries become possible as scientific
> instruments get more sophisticated, one becomes able to directly
> experience new religious truths as one's consciousness grows more
> purified and larger in size.
What is truth but a solidified idea of what isn't perceived to change?> About principles of working with scriptures
> A person willing to engage in religious study should know the Bible
> and other religious scriptures. But study of these books can be
> optimized if one takes into account the following:
What if the person is a Buddhist monk?
> 1) Books were written by people, and people tend to err sometimes;
Some books were written through people.
> 2) A significant part of what is written in these scriptures is but
> an allegory;
Which scriptures? Can you be more specific?
They wouldn't be your own by any chance? Keep reading...
> Practice
> The complete doctrine of spiritual practice can be summarized in
> short in the following three points:
> 1) There is God - the Universal Consciousness of the Creator, Who
> lives in the highest eon of multidimensional universe.
Ahhh.. God damn it... I was looking in the wrong place... Thanks for
telling me where to look now :)
> 2) He is Love.
Is he also a Love Doctor... Dr. Love.... I'm glad I know he's a he...
:)
> 3) We really can and should strive to become one with Him through
> transforming ourselves into Love. And it makes sense to dedicate our
> lives to comprehending and realizing this, as well as helping others
> do it also.
I AM LOVE....
LOVE U...
Some people prefer games.... Sometimes thinking about things is a
game... I used to think thinking was a substitute for doing or knowing.
> A spiritual practice for psychogenetically mature people
> implies:
> 1) Initial familiarization with the concept of Spiritual Path and
> accumulation of relevant knowledge;
I'm lost... Where can I find this path? Is it near my house? Will the
path come to me? What happens if I go down it by mistake? Will I get
whacked by Dr. Love's stick?
> 2) Ethic purification in accordance with the principles that
> incarnate people received from God. At this stage various methods of
> psychic self-regulation, based on shifting the concentration of
> consciousness from one chakra to another and mastering the functions
> of chakras can render one a significant help.
How about for No.2 ... Releasing fixed ideas and beliefs?
> 3) Psychoenergetical work on transforming oneself into a developed
> spiritual heart, expansion of it within multidimensional structure of
> the Absolute, and substituting the Higher Self for individual lower
> self
> The religious Truth in all its entirety is impossible to understand
> by its description - one can only perceive it by one's own personal
> experience. And all people who successfully advance on this Path
> experience it.
Yeah... You could spend a few lifetimes I reckon and be not much the
wiser... Beliefs and ideas can make a nice prison cell.
> Such practice results in clearly perceptible and noticeable changes
> of the inner state of a person.
> This doctrine of spiritual heart has never been published before. But
> now this knowledge is available for all people((http://swami-
> center.org/en/text/Practices.html) Spiritual Practices (Training
> Aid) ) .
Well there we have it.... We are all freed at last.... We can sleep
safely at night again ... And no need to say anything to anyone as we
can bliss out in ourselves after our treatment with Dr. Love...> Conclusions
> If a strictly logical approach that takes into account all above
> said, is used, religion really becomes science, while its practical
> part - spiritual Self-Realization.
I must have missed the logic.... Sorry... My brain gets a bit frazzled
working with computers so much....Rich
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