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Recieved: 2002/11/13 01:43
Subject: Re: [K-list] RE: soul retrieval: Lavina
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
On 2002/11/13 01:43, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:
At 07:47 PM 12/11/02, lavinaleone wrote:
>I have purposely not opened any other posts on this thread. Only to
>find you writting about it in this one.
:) Sorry.
>So much for hidding out from
>it. I admit, the first one spooked me a little.
>But reading this one now I am not sure it should have.
I dunno why it would. The words are simple, a gentle prayer with no
hidden agenda.
>When I read the first post I only thought that I might come back to
>it later.
>At the time I was annoyed at the bickering and did not think it was
>the best time to try it. Thinking I was comming back to it I only
>scanned it.
So you had an intention to do it, later... ?
>As soon as I clicked the browser to go to the next post I got sick to
>my stomach, I ran to the bathroom thinking I was going to puke, but
>only expelled, painfully hard, Hot Air. Luckily it was early and I
>had not eaten.
Barfing kriyas, I call them. Barfing up karma. You *probably* would
not have actually vomited, even if you had eaten... but the dry heaves can
be powerful, whole body contractions intense like having a baby... It is a
very powerful release.
I associate it with "barfing up the crap you swallowed"... the limiting
beliefs that you accepted from parents, etc. as a child.
I cannot recall them being a symptom of soul retrieval before, tho.
Soul retrievals can be emotionally intense, but generally of the "being
overwhelmed with beauty and coming home" kind.
Most often barfing kriyas come of
a) intense shaktipat
b) inner child work
c) clearing the power chakra.
d) some other kind of intense karmic release.
Any or all.
Some empathic healing sessions have triggered them in me. Barfing up
people's karma after the session ends.
If nausea comes, I surrender to it. Body knows best. Babies and animals
barf all the time, with no stress. Humans fight it, so it becomes trauma.
>I did not associate this with the email until much later, but for the
>next three hours I had many more opportunities to surrender. I
>couldn't even keep down sipps of water! My throat is still sore, and
>my ribs feel tight, but otherwise I feel fine.
Tight ribs is power chakra stuff. Blockages. Not able to get a full
deep breath, breath is life energy... and power chakra is the center for it.
>Is it possible that because I had intended to do it later that that
>was enough consent?
Maybe.
>and if so, should I attempt to do it and not just
>read through it?
Yup. I think so, but it is your call. My intentions were crystal
clear consensuality. But if your body wanted it and you resisted,
procrastinated... Goddess wins.
>Maybe I am just being silly.
Maybe. :) Thanks for sharing your experience, regardless.
>Lavina
PS: I was moved to reopen this queued post and tell you... often, abused
children try to protect the soul from harm by encasing it in a shell, like
a steel ball a little smaller than an egg right at the power chakra.
Children know it is their most precious thing, and under conditions of
trauma the soul leaves the body. Clinical detachment, a divine mercy.
Freaks them out, so when it returns, they lock it up. Like hiding jewels in
a vault to keep them safe. Then they forget where they put it, forget they
ever had it... the soul retrieval cracks the shell wide open.
I have encountered this, perhaps 1/2 dozen times. It is not effective,
but it is understandable. The thing is, without the souls radiance, they
tend to collect a lot more stuff. A 1/2 soul retrieval... would trigger the
stuff but not fully release the soul. Clearing is messier.
I think the "spooky" feeling may have been a memory of the fear that
moved the child to protect the soul. Of course, I could be mistaken... :)
Perhaps the nausea and my email are not related at all. Do what you feel.
Blessings..
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