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Recieved: 2002/10/17 01:49
Subject: [K-list] Re: There is no Kundalini
From: tedshakthi7
On 2002/10/17 01:49, tedshakthi7 posted thus to the K-list:
Well put Aaron,
the SELF is beyond anything & everything. Its formless &
attributeless. So how can one identify the self with anything else?
If you find anyone describing "the SELF", you know its impossible to
do so. The truth is, it cant be described at all. Thus it's pure in
its nature.But it is the EGO that's get in the way of the truth. This is why the
wisdom of discrimination is essential.
When the mind cease to exist, can anyone describe the SELF?
NO, because SILENCE reigns.
cheers
tj
--- In Kundalini-GatewayATnospamy..., SoitPPATnospama... wrote:
> There is no Kundalini. The imagination is powerful to decieve the
mind. We
> are deluded into thinking we are having a transcendant experience.
But that
> is the nature of transcendance. We believe we are working through a
process.
> But there is no process. While the process is as plain as day. It
is easy to
> become deluded into believing that we are "progressing" while the
belief of
> progression itself is born from the ego-mind. Quintessential self
is
> everything. It is everything because it is both the here and the
later.
> Before time existed in our minds, as an infant, there was no more
a "now"
> than there would be a "then". I remember very well the exact moment
that the
> thoughtform of hard time was born in my consciuosness. I didn't
like it at
> all, to say the least, and tried my best to avoid it although
knowing somehow
> it's integration was somehow inevitable. I can remember arguing in
my mind,
> with my parents, although not knowing how to explain it, that this
idea of
> "time" was ludicrous and unnecessary and so much weight to have
added on
> life. That is where I am returning to. However with an adult mind
to boot. I
> am returning to no-time. I have wreaked havoc on myself prying with
Kundalini
> concepts. Thinking I have come along in my progress. And that I
must be
> "more" of something.. or "less" of something else. Paying close
attention the
> "power" I am exerting, or the amount of "surrender". But I decieved
myself in
> the process. Because of one key point. In my delusion I had
virtually
> forgotten what true "surrender" even meant.. because I had
forgotten myself.
> Essentially, or quintessentially, the self that existed as I was as
an
> infant. They say children are close to God, and I believe this. But
it is
> easy to admendum what it is to be "a child". I won't forgoe with
any rules
> and regulations. Those are for the individuals path. But I warn
those who
> forget that childhood was a time of innocence. And remember well
the
> anticedants that lead us from childhood into adulthood. There is a
second
> birth. And an ego-death. It's different for everyone. The rules I
placed on
> myself regarding my path were tremendous. Quite difficult for one
who expects
> to walk among serpents and dance among hot coals. But there I was
indeed
> bludgeoning myself with impossible heights and lows to encounter,..
having
> accepted this is what "Kundalini" was. Indeed, one who is one with
God does
> walk among serpents and dance among fire. But blinded by the light,
we find
> ourselves lacking at every step, and slowly descending into a place
of
> impossibility. We judge ourselves at every corner, every step,
because we are
> not enough.. and we worry for our namesake, our very lives. But
then we
> should know that Kundalini desires us to leave our lives. To throw
of
> mortality. The crunch is quite unbearable, to live, without life,
for a
> purpose, we cannot see. We see "masters" abound us. Foreign
personalities we
> doubt ourselves in their names. They may have mastered their place
in the
> universe, but we have not. We forget ourselves. We throw ourselves
to the
> wolves, if the wolves have teeth. We have forgotten what it is to
be an
> infant. To be free of worry, doubt, and horror. But Kundalini
demands a
> spirit capable of embracing entire tribes. Brothers and sisters who
are
> listening. There is no possible way of embracing such things
without
> spiritual guidance and a commitment to the self. Not the ego self.
But the
> quintessential divine angel within us. Had I forgotten permanently
who I was.
> I would have lead myself down a black path of woe and blamed myself
entirely
> in the end believing I was simply not enough as I was. Trying, in
vain, to
> force a rabbit to be a wolf. There is a path to self. But it is
through self
> and through self alone. We cannot be blinded by the light and allow
illusions
> to destroy us. Each of us must stand alone. To be alone one must be
honest.
> Sincere. and know him/herself. Never let another tell you who you
are. If
> they speak to be so. They must be ignorant themselves. That is the
challenge
> of all who know themselves while others do not. To doubt ourselves
is to
> believe another over ourself. We know who we are. We were born
knowing who we
> are. And it will never leave us. God does not leave us. We and God
are One.
> And God does not create anything ugly out of itself. Believe in
yourself.
> Believe in your dreams. And let your surrender, to yourself, be
your Guide.
> And Kundalini will dissappear. There is no Kundalini. There is only
you.
> There is only self.
>
> Peace in the Light,
> Aaron
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