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Recieved: 2002/10/06 13:21
Subject: Re: [K-list] How about Some Hard Science -- Why?
From: José H

Hi Ken,

Yes ofcourse - when it comes to sharing, that's a different matter. I find
it works best when you always stick to your own experiences. It is usually
the experience that will be convincing when you tell them wholeheartedly.
Not some unbelievable experience for the one listening - but one the other
can relate to.
At least that's my experience. Treating rationality with more rationality
just gives ....more rationality.
There is a lot of intelligence in sharing what you have experienced with
another person! And I use the frame of reference the other person can relate
to as well: kundalini, spiritual experience or a more psychological
interpretation - whatever they will understand without ending up in full
resistance. Works best in communication I found.

Love and blessings,
Jose

>
> > Why would you want to convince materialists with hard scientific
> > evidence? It is my experience that when they are ready...

> It's not like I'm trying to be some Gopi Krishna book waving K.
> evangelist; it's that I've found that many people who are in all
> other ways ready to make some spiritual progress are blocked by the
> idea that K. requires some belief system, and that spirituality in
> general has no scientific basis. I just witnessed a guy, who was
> constanly mocking religion and sprituality and calling it
> superstition, drop off the discussion board so he could "find
> himself" through meditation.

> > Wanting to convince people, in my experience, represents some
> > leftover restlessness in myself.

> If one felt driven to convince people of something, I'm sure that's
> true. However, grounding your spiritual experience in good science
> may allow you to become the instrument that helps a materialist
> fence sitter get on with his/her spiritual work, as in the case
> above. Most of us live in a world where we often interact with
> other people. If we don't want to share our experiences with others
> in an intelligent way, why not just go live in a cave.
>
> Peace and Love,
>
> Ken
>
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