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Recieved: 2002/09/28 07:12
Subject: Re: [K-list] please jod down what God is..
From: Lbra782595

Dear Mi_nok,

You wrote:

>I don't belive in a god in the Genesis stories and holy scriptures..more
>than I believe the Grimm fairy-tales,
>or any other dogma..they all were made
>for an other generation to comprehend..
>have ethics, to control and to sood
>their fear of death

While I see your point with this statement, you must realize that with this
statement, you just put a limitation in your mind of where God can and cannot
be. If you say God is "here" but he is not "there", you're missing the big
point.

No one has a copyright on the description of God, but I will share one that I
find effective.

From "The Recorded Sayings of Zen Master Joshu":

Joshu asked Nansen, "What is 'The Way'?"
Nansen said, "'Ordinary Mind' is 'The Way'."
Joshu said,"Then may I direct myself towards it or not?"
Nansen said, "To seek it is to deviate from it."
Joshu said, "If I do not seek it, how can I know about 'The Way'?"
Nansen said, "'The Way' does not belong to 'knowing' or to 'not knowing'. To
know is to have a concept; to not know is to be ignorant. If you truly
realize The Way of No Doubt, it just like th sky: wide open vast emptiness.
How can you say 'yes' or 'no' to it?
At these words Joshu had a sudden enlightenment. His mind became like the
clear moon.

The Dharma that Nansen passed to Joshu was as close to a true description as
I have ever heard. Nansen basically says: "The Divine is every moment,
everywhere, always. How can you then deny it? If you truly see this, then
you cannot live apart from it. If you do not see this then you merely suffer
from ignorance and are in delusion about being able to live apart from the
Divine."

Peace, Rocks.
Jason B

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