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Recieved: 2002/09/25 16:57
Subject: RE: [K-list] Re: Fate and Free Will
From: Rich
On 2002/09/25 16:57, Rich posted thus to the K-list:
Wouldn't it be funny if destiny was born out of free-will or restraint
was born out of freedom or something was created out of nothing.
:)
Rich> if the Universe is closed and infinitely-recurrent, as
> the Indian cosmology suggests and as some physicists
> have been more and more willing to consider lately,
> then the free-will/destiny false dichotomy breaks down
> on purely scientific grounds as well. Our
> consciousness, as the Whole far greater than the mere
> sum of our parts, experiences self-awareness and
> recursive, self-related knowledge. "Ego". and one of
> the manifestations of this recursive and self-related
> knowledge is the subjective sense that we have
> 'choice', which I often think is caused by the
> illusion of linear time (which is bound up with
> deep-brain structures which piece frames of sense data
> together sequentially, like a movie-projector),
> coupled with subtle perceptual distortions caused by
> the fact that the quantum-level information-exchange
> in our brains happens much faster than the
> chemical/synaptic-level information exchange. IOW, the
> time-delays in every experience we have lead to the illusion
> that we are choosing to do what we do, when in reality it's
> just 'ME' as a finite set of particles running the course
> through its incredibly large yet still very finite range of
> possible configurations (see chaos theory and complexity
> theory for more behind this). Likewise, you can extrapolate
> this up to the seeming randomness and arbitrary quality of
> human social and even global-scale events; when events
> synchronize in patterns (or rather, they're ALWAYS
> synchronizing in patterns, its just when we begin to SEE
> those patterns!), we can begin to get the sense that once
> again, it is neither "freewill" nor "fate" which drives the
> universe; the Universe is merely running through the array of
> every possibility that can be, God is dreaming every dream He
> can dream, very often through our own dreams, I think! ;p we
> are all just Primal Pattern wrapped in bones and flesh and
> clothing and webs of language and symbolism... when the
> limits of complexity are reached (ie. matter reaches its
> state of maximum expansion and begins going back inward into
> the 'big crunch' Singularity), then... the patterns all
> repeat themslves. you can experience this on a microcosmic
> level in your own life, as you cycle between periods of
> copletely distilled simplicity and completly fragmented
> complexity and then back again, and on the most macrocosmic
> level... I always wonder whether or not my own passage
> through death's door is merely my own passage through my
> mother's birth canal, on my birthday, 28 years ago, on the
> "next" recursive loop of the Universe... this Moment contains
> all Moments... maybe? *shrugs* just my 2 cents... love, david
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