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Recieved: 2002/09/21 21:39
Subject: [K-list] Re: on Free will and Destiny
From: mundaneyogi

On 2002/09/21 21:39, mundaneyogi posted thus to the K-list:

--- In Kundalini-GatewayATnospamy..., "Louis" wrote:

> ...
> The idea is that every action to the smallest thing that you do is
> done for your own self interest conciously or not, and that free
> will is a myth.This statement sounds self-contradictory. Without free will, how
could "you do" anything for "your own self-interest"? You could
posit that "Your every action is pre-ordained, but you have the
illusion of it happening out of self-interest and with free will",
or "Your every action is pre-ordained, and happens for your BEST
interest; free will is an illusion".
> The things that you do in your self interest are due to a
> chain of events that led to that action. The first chain of
> events may have started with the big bang or something like that.
> It could all be calculated, allthough it is massively complex. If
> you were to attach a special machine that that measured nerve
> impulses and muscle movement when you tossed a die, the roll
> wouyld be predicted.One crazy sounding idea, that actually fits the latest scientific
observations and theories (quantum mechanics, relativity, etc.)
quite well, is that ALL possibilities actually occur, but in
parallel universes.

 

> My guess is that if there is no such thing as randomness, that
> free will is a perceived myth.My take on this question of free will is this -- From a grand
perspective (e.g., God or the universe as whole) there is a strong
case for regarding free will as a myth. However, from a human
perspective the question is moot. Since it APPEARS we have free
will, for all intents and purposes, we can just carry-on with our
daily lives as if we in fact do.

This reminds me of a book by Voltaire called "Candide". It
reflects a popular theory of the day which is similar to your
idea. Since God is perfect, his world must be perfect. It is
expressed by a character in the book named Dr. Pangloss -- "All's
for the best in this, the best of all possible worlds". Voltaire
goes on to show all the misery and suffering in the world, as proof
that all is not perfect.
> I'd like to hear what you have to say about that, thats whats been
> on my mind lately. Maybe you can point out a model of true
> randomness,Brownian motion comes to mind. 
Peace,

Ken

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