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Recieved: 2002/09/19 21:21
Subject: RE: [K-list] Ego and Detachment
From: Rich

This made me think of something which is not directed at you Ken, but is
a general comment...

Why do people want to transcend the physical when the physical is a part
of the bigger whole... To embrace the physical and love those things
which we resist might be a good idea... I just realised tonight I'd
taken on from a very spiritual women some years ago her avoidance of
people with ego's. So what .. There is beauty in the ego and agression
also but for me I had become shut down and resistant to look and accept.

I have an idea of the state you metion. In the past I have been able to
stay like that for weeks (whilst travelling) but when my energy is
depleted it is easier to get bitten. Ego tends to be the small me
fighting for a cause. Although there is subtlety of this present all the
time, when I'm tuned into the whole or wider self, and living in joy
then my ego doesn't seem to be so present. Life flows and is very
natural.

Rich
> While most of this post rings true, I'd like to add something
> regarding ego and detachment. In the highest state of meditation, I
> can feel my consciousness expanding beyond my physical body --
> superconsciousness, if you will. During that state, I feel a
> profound oneness with other people, the earth, the universe, et al.
> Thus, my sense of self (ego) doesn't go away, it just expands to
> become the Self. Even during normal walking consciousness, I feel
> this to some degree -- like a pleasant meditation hangover.
>
> I used to think that obtaining higher states of consciousness would
> mean transcending the physical and would involve detachment from it,
> like a quantum leap from the physical to the spiritual. Meditation
> has loosened the bonds between these two states, and I suppose I
> could "cross over" and detach myself from the physical if I applied
> enough effort. Yet, I prefer a sense of being that encompasses
> both, in a holistic unity (if that doesn't sound too pompous :)). So
> for me, ego has been transformed, and I haven't become detached,
> just expanded.
>
>
> Peace and Love,
>
> Ken

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