To: K-list
Recieved: 2002/09/09 01:31
Subject: RE: [K-list] Help! Icky Experience
From: Rich
On 2002/09/09 01:31, Rich posted thus to the K-list:
I've found this an interesting read and something quite close to home.
Just one comment... Sometimes we don't always see what is going on when
we are caught up in the whirlwind of something. It can be good for an
outsider to look in (or another insider to look within depending on how
you look at it :-) ).
In my own experiences sometimes I've taken on ideas or beliefs from
someone who thought they were helping me but actually ended up making me
feel more confused and against myself. I don't blame them, they just did
not know what they were doing. They did not see the consequences of
their actions... Small wisdom... I think sometimes the best belief is no
belief, for these can become mental attachments and limit the level of
exeprience of the whole.
When cut off from source it's easy to look outside for solutions.
Personally it takes me a long time to fully trust someone (both on an
intellectual and intuitive level) - even with my closest friends there
are still things I would prefer not to tell them.
If a healers expression is coloured by their own ideas and beliefs then
it may not be in the receipients best interest - it might be projection
of ego instead of transmission of the nectar of source!
Best wishes,
Rich
> -----Original Message-----
> From: june1 [mailto:june1ATnospamsisna.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:28 AM
> To: K-list ; shellelrATnospamaol.com
> Subject: Re: [K-list] Help! Icky Experience
>
>
> Shelle
> A lot of people do not even understand the concept of
> Kundalini. Also when they do their work on you I would be
> careful. Whenever Kundalini has been opened in your system
> you are much more sensitive to other's energies. Please do
> not listen to other people's diagnostics on you. No one can
> really tell you what is going on with your system. You are
> the one to define what is going on with your system. When
> your Kundalini is raised you need to become more in tune with
> your own body. Your body will tell you what it needs and what
> is going on. Listen to it, not other people. Yes, there are
> walk-ins and it can happen but mostly with people that are
> finished with their life and want out. It is an agreement
> between two souls for one to leave another to finish out the
> body's lifetime. apparently you are not a walk-in as you said
> that you have worked with your body many years and not about
> to let go. I would say that people that question their
> existence and often find the past a contradiction of the
> present may be a walk in. Don't feel yuck about all this, it
> is part of the growth and evolvement of you. June
>
>
----- Original Message -----
> From: shellelrATnospamaol.com
> To: K-list
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 4:51 PM
> Subject: [K-list] Help! Icky Experience
>
>
> So I had a little back to school ice cream sundae party
> this afternoon for my
> daughter and some of our neighbors and their kids.
>
> At the party was a neighbor that I don't know very well but
> who goes to the
> unitarian church that I go to. I've always thought she
> seemed like an
> interesting person, from afar. We got into a long
> mystical conversation and
> I ended up telling her some of the highlights of my K
> experience. Nowhere
> near a comprehensive telling, and I don't think she was
> very familiar with
> the concept, but she seemed open and believing.
>
> Turns out she dabbles in some kind of energetic healing, holotropic
> something or other, and does past life readings with a
> pendulum. Also some
> kind of kinesiology thing with her hands where she "reads"
> people and her
> yes/no answers come from whether she moves her fingers one
> way or another.
> So without my asking, she starts sort of "reading" me,
> coming up with
> different ideas about me. First she tells me that I'm
> living parallel lives.
> Like here, and somewhere else, or with someone else's
> energy in me, in
> addition to my own. Okay, hard to understand, but
> whatever. Then she tells
> me she's got it! I've had a soul transfer. My original
> soul left, and a new
> one moved in. I can't tell you how revolted I was by this
> pronouncement.
> This ONE soul of mine has worked long and hard these 39
> years, and it's a
> keeper!
>
> I felt like I had walked into a new age nightmare. It took
> me a good long
> while to accept that k was happening to me, but I know that
> it is ancient and
> real. This soul transfer, or "walk-in" business just irks
> me. I felt like I
> needed to defend my "original" soul, who, trust me, has
> never given up when
> the going got tough! It seems so clearly to be some kind
> of mental escape
> hatch for people who don't like who they are and need to
> wipe the slate of
> their fucked-up lives clean.
>
> I feel like, oh, fuck. I can't talk about k with ANYONE,
> really. Even
> people who seem like they might be open to it, but don't
> fully understand it;
> it just leads to some kind of feeling of another disastrous
> attempt at
> face-to-face connection about k.
>
> Feeling kind of contaminated,
> Shelle
>
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