To: K-list
Recieved: 2002/08/28 12:00
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Ida, Pingala debate
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
On 2002/08/28 12:00, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:
At 09:21 PM 22/08/02, Joseph Miller wrote:
> >Hillary is a moderator too, Joe. Darn good one too!
>
>OK, my bad. I was talking about Angelique.
Yup... but you wrote that I say no one on the list has experienced it.
That is not what I said. How do I know what everyone of 800 members has
experienced? Obviously, Hillary has experienced it, and I accept that. It
makes no sense to me, like if all the nerves or veins in the body became
one... but then, I have never claimed to be an "expert" on Kundalini,
although I do seem to have this wild talent for assisting the process.
> > >The energies in Ida and Pingala, lets call it what is it, prana, can >
> > >be usedto control sushumna, but they don't merge with it.
> >
> > Hmm.. interesting. Now I understand what that weird Reiki Tao guy is
> >doing. Sure isn't Kundalini...
>
>I agree but they tend to take offense if you say that to them.
Yup. On my things to do list is to take it up with him... but it is
not too high on the list. He went looking for Kundalini and found a serpent
like structure in the root chakra. He is able to persuade that to uncoil,
and calls it a full awakening in 5 minutes, but surrender is nowhere in his
vocabulary. His work is all chi based. He looked and said mine are not
uncoiled, therefore figgered I am not awakened.. which we know, is not the
case.
> Though what
>they do can be very helpful to the Kundalini process as well as to the
>physical body and its functioning.
Yes... chi work, whether it be reiki or tai chi or whatever, can be
useful for clearing blockages.> >Respect for other paths is a list guideline.
>
>A path that has only one walker in the history of the universe is a very
>loose definition of that term. I have a friend who teaches in the Religious
>Studies department of the local university. He speaks of a religion with one
>follower, the leader. It became a field of study when prisoners began making
>up religions with odd "scaraments" to get to do things that were otherwise
>against the rules for people put away from society for their sins against
>other members of society.
Heh.. good trick! Thought of that, myself... ;)
> >I dunno, I'm a Shaman, spirit taught me directly.
>
>Interesting, most of the Shaman I know also had teachers. Well since we
>haven't met, all of the Shaman I know have or had teachers.
Then they were fortunate.. or perhaps they are not really Shamans. The
definition of a Shaman is pretty specific, as I described in another post.
What you describe is not it. Yogis can teach by remote too... but they are
not Shamans.
My shamanic process was like my K process... weird stuff happened, and
it was not till the process was mostly done that I was lead to a resource
that offered an explanation, framework or label for the experience.
Blessings...
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