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Recieved: 2002/08/27 07:22
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Miracles
From: jlb
On 2002/08/27 07:22, jlb posted thus to the K-list:
Thank you david, Sincerly, This is good stuff.
I think this was my first glimpse of the "enlightened" david that the
Mystress referred to. I knew she was right.. or she wouldn't have said
it... so I've been looking for the evidence.
~~jlb
--- In Kundalini-GatewayATnospamy..., "mundaneyogi" <gutrekATnospamh...> wrote:
>>When I was younger and first noticed I had some super-sensory abilities, I
tried some experiments on friends. For example, I found that under the
right conditions, I could generate a certain feeling in the pit of my
stomach and cause my friend (who was sitting next to me in a car) to jump up
in his seat.
Very good. Can you do this with love? Or even better, allow Love to do you?
>>Afterwards, I had a severe anxiety attack, and I don't want others to try
my experiment and have the same result.
I am trying your experiment now with love and am having no problem.
>>I believe this was because the experience shattered the foundation of my
worldview.
Your intent was misguided.
>>In other words, it defied rational explanation and therefore it freaked me
out.
Does compassion freak you out?
>>Based on experiences like this and the realization I had last night, I
believe the reason miracles are not seen that often is twofold:
>>1) They reek havoc with either the person performing the miracle, or the
people that witness it by shattering their fundamental assumptions regarding
everyday reality.
Two points of notice:
1. Miracles do not wreak havoc. They are healing.
2. Funny feelings in the pit of one's stomach do not constitute a miracle.
>>2) They are associated with the lower chakras, and are therefore
tangential to spiritual development.
>>In the Buddhist Tantra system, practitioners focus on the upper chakras in
meditation, ignoring the lower ones.
It's not so much an issue of ignoring or repression
(that has catastrophic effects) but more of allowing all chackras to be in
harmony.
>>Jesus said, "Only a wicked and adulterous generation seeks signs".
The world is one big signpost.
>>This makes a lot of sense to me now. In meditation, things don't really
start cooking until the heart chakra opens up. So I think to myself, why
get stuck in the lower chakras? It'll only slow you down and freak you out
or freak out the people around you.
I know many things that are harmful to myself and others but I still do them
because I am conditioned.
>>Nonetheless, I'm curious to see if any of you have had a sense as to the
source of miraculous or extra-sensory abilities.
I have sensed the Source. Not in it's purest of pure essence though.
>>The scientist in me still looks for external confirmation of insights like
this :)
The mystic in me sees all as internal...
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