To: K-list
Recieved: 2002/08/22 13:47
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Ida, Pingala debate
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent

At 07:50 AM 22/08/02, Joseph Miller wrote:
>Since it doesn't happen, that is the merging of Ida & Pingala, as the
>moderator has agreed is the case, NO ONE was speaking from experience.

Hillary is a moderator too, Joe. Darn good one too!

>The energies in Ida and Pingala, lets call it what is it, prana, can be used
>to control sushumna, but they don't merge with it.

    Hmm.. interesting. Now I understand what that weird Reiki Tao guy is
doing. Sure isn't Kundalini...

>How does one work this miracle with prana, so it will work one's will with
>Kundalini? How does one get it in balance? There is more than one way. But
>the simplest, the easiest, the best, certainly for a non-expert is plain old
>alternate nostril breathing (ANB).

    Never practiced it, myself...

> >You seem to be unnecessarily on the warpath again, Joe! :))
>
>Most importantly to me, I have a debt to the tradition. It is never to be
>"unnecessarily on the warpath" to do my duty and pay my debts to a tradition
>that has so blessed me. As we have discussed off list honor, to self and to
>tradition, is a paramount value.

    Hmm... ok, so you are attached to your dogma. From my own research, it
seems that many of the old traditions disagree with each other. Respect for
other paths is a list guideline. Your debating opponent was polite in his
disagreement.

    I dunno, I'm a Shaman, spirit taught me directly.

> That is sad but if that is the way of things so be it. I must honor
>the debt.

If you could honour your debt and the list guidelines both, that would
be good.

> Assuming truth matters more than
>feeling good about how wise one has become. Or said another way, truth
>matters more than emotional masturbation.

I think truth is experiential... respect for the experiences of others
is polite.
 Blessings...

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