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Recieved: 2002/08/17 17:13
Subject: [K-list] What matters to me is what I perceive and not some external authority, ya da ya
From: Joseph Miller

>Their 2nd Guru, Sri Babuji Maharaj has stated this.

Where? ISBN?

>Satguru Sivaya Subramuniya Swami, a Saivaite Realised Master has also
>stated that the merging of the pingala and ida into the sushumna is a first
>step. His text 'Merging with Siva' you can refer to by buying it from
>'www.gurudeva.org'.
>In this text, He refers to Sushumna alone as the passage.
>And, to the Ida and the Pingala as the spiritual nerves.

No need to order and wait on the post office, that book is in my library.
Interesting that in 968 pages he didn't mention any merging of I&P. Where
has he stated it? I've looked through his book. All of the text referenced
in that book in the index under either Ida or Pingala have found nothing
remotely like what you've said.

He would state that sushumna is the proper nadi. It, or one of the smaller
nadis inside it, are proper for a healthy rising. Other nadis are possible
but enlightenment is not possible through those and great difficulties
result.

I guess it is really good, as your yet again new subject line says, you
don't need any external authority to spit on the wisdom of thousands of
years, because you haven't produced any source to support your statements.
No offense but you saying, "I believe this and I'm sure Swami 'famous guy's
name goes here' has said this too" is to be kind, not a very good job of
producing an authority.

So here we are. You spewing crap you've made up and trying to pass it off as
Vedic knowledge and me, someone who believes in paying his debts to those
teachers and the tradition that has been so kind to him, here to call you on
your made up junk.

If you don't like the fact I'm calling you on the stuff you make up, quit
it. If you want to change your approach and spew new age touchy feely things
I'll leave you alone. I have no idea what of that works or not, and since I
have something that has thousands of years of proof behind it I won't be
trying to learn what is true there and what isn't in that arena. Besides I
don't have any real debts to pay there. But as long as you insult the
ancients, as long as you make up lies and try to pass them as traditional
knowledge I'll be on you like stink on shit.

Your choice pal.

Joe

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