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Recieved: 2002/08/15 14:42
Subject: RE: [K-list] to Meredith.
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent


On 2002/08/15 14:42, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:

At 12:04 PM 15/08/02, Meredith, Justin wrote:
>i do snip but sometimes i like to respond to more than one idea at a time
>and that is why i leave in the previous post. any other posts besides that i
>usually delete. makes it less confusing IMO. )

    I don't care if you think you are superior to the will of the list.
    Please respect the list guidelines and snip the previous posts you are
responding to... or, respond within them if you are speaking of many ideas,
as I am doing. The list guidelines are by the community, for the
community, and they have stood the test of time since 1996, when they were
first created by polling the members. My job is simply to remind and
enforce the will of the list.

>as far as the chakra system and the astral planes go i don't really follow
>that stuff.

You have not experienced it, to understand.

> they are the prevalent ideas in spirituality right now i
>realize, and i think that when people become more spiritual and have
>experiences most peole feel like they have to follow these ideas because
>they are socially excepted. Spiritualism is a religion in itself really.

    Saying that it is simply trendy, just because you do not understand it,
is very patronizing. I did not understand it, early on in my path,
either... but as the chakras become clearer, you begin to feel the
difference when your soul spark of perception is residing in one or the
other. When all chakras are open and functioning, you notice the difference
in moving through their dimensional universes... then, the stuff starts to
make sense in the only way it can, through validation of individual experience.

    I do not write about what I have not experienced. I am not spewing
dogma of religion, or following a trend. It is my talent to help with k.
awakening in people, and it is my experience of my own process and that of
others that I speak of.
Genuine spirituality transcends the rote and dogma of religion. It is
experiential. Whether you look at the Hindu model of chakras, or the
Kaballah model of chakras, or the kung fu model, or the rainbow serpent
ladder of the African !Kung tribes, they are very similar. The unity
transcends individual religions.

>personally, i feel it is not feasble to make distinctions about things we
>really don't understand fully.

and I would say, it is rather rude to dismiss ideas as fashion if you
do not understand them fully.

>to say a physcial or mental problem is a
>result of a blocked chakra or something similar is to think that you have a
>definite answer to the problem.

    Honestly, I really do not care if it is true or not, I care about
whether it works. I cannot be bothered to validate myself to you, or try to
persuade you. I have a stack of testimonials up to my neck, people finding
peace when blockages are removed from chakras. If they were finding peace
by singing hymns to donald duck, then that is what I would be recommending.
All is illusion, but within the illusion some things are functional and
some things are not. Removing blockages from chakras is very, very
functional. Nor is it "trendy". This healing method dates back 5000 years
of written history, who knows how long before that.

> i don't totally deny the existence of
>chakras because i don't have enough information to say.

    but that is exactly what you are doing.

>but, imagination is
>a very powerful thing, and if you just accept a belief system without
>question then your experiences and perceptions will be affected by it. that
>is just how i feel on the subject... )

    A comedian once wrote, if we need all these fancy double blind studies
on new drugs to rule out the placebo effect, then maybe what we really
need, is a really good placebo. True enough, by your faith are you healed.

   However, an awful lot of awakened folks found relief from migraine by
opening the crown chakra, when all the placebos and pills of western
medicine did nothing.

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