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Recieved: 2002/08/03 18:04
Subject: Re: [K-list] To oobe or not to oobe.
From: Gregor Gonnella
On 2002/08/03 18:04, Gregor Gonnella posted thus to the K-list:
I think its very interesting. I'm not an expert. But I guess some people on
the site will be able to help you. If you don't get a good reply on the
subject you could try posting the message again a few days later. That's
what I did and it seemed to help
Gregor.
----- Original Message -----
From: goldenyawn <goldenyawnATnospamyahoo.com>
To: <K-list >
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 9:52 AM
Subject: [K-list] To oobe or not to oobe.> Hello. This is my first post. Let me begin by saying I have a
> question, but first, some background. Back about a year ago, I was
> looking for something relaxing to do that was also interesting
> online, and I came upon what I saw as a derivative of
> meditation; that being oobe or astral projection. I went at it as
> prescribed in various online documentation for about a week or so,
> when upon one attempt I was feeling the assumed effects, extreme
> relaxation, paralysis, very strong and warm vibrations through my
> whole body, a feeling that my feet were being gripped and pulled
> downward toward the end of the bed, and so on, until a very strong
> pressure developed in my forehead, and a feeling that my face was
> being pulled forward by some unseen force. After this sensation
> persisted for a few minutes, there was the feeling of an explosion in
> my forehead accompanied by a loud boom, release of pressure, and
> audible screams. I then found myself suspended in empty, open grey-
> white space.
>
> I arose from this experience and have not tried meditation or other
> similar methods since. Now, and ever since this experience, I cannot
> fall asleep lying on my back, I must be laying on my side. (I never
> had problems sleeping on my back before.) If I do attempt to fall
> asleep on my back, I feel what I assume is energizing of my third-eye
> chakra, and a sense of dissociation. If I try to ignore it and learn
> to just fall asleep on my back again (I try from time to time),
> different events occur. Sometimes an arm or leg will jump up
> unexpectedly, or I'll experience rather vivid imagery in a strong
> flash, sometimes with auditory input, and it will jolt me enough that
> I awake. So this bothers me for sleeping purposes. Apart from
> sleeping, I also find it very easy to "focus" on this feeling around
> my forehead and above my nose...but I don't take this practice up
> really because I'm not sure of what the effects might be.
>
> I might also mention that in immediate proximity to my experience,
> and what really stopped my investigation of astral projection, were
> two main phenomena: loud noises and flying pieces of paper. The loud
> noises resembled an aluminum chair being hit or dropped, and the
> pieces of paper would just inexplicably flip or become airborne and
> drift across the room. I would have thought I was crazy but this
> happened in the presence of witnesses. This activity subsided over
> the next weeks.
>
> Searching on the net for possible explanations, the closest I could
> find was Kundalini. Hmm. So I think that is my question. Is this
> Kundalini, or just different, assorted and related phenomena related
> to astral projection?
>
> Thank you all very much,
>
> -goldenyawn
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