To: K-list
Recieved: 2002/07/09 14:28
Subject: [K-list] Re: The Big Question re-stated/answered?
From: shivahmurti
On 2002/07/09 14:28, shivahmurti posted thus to the K-list:
--- In Kundalini-GatewayATnospamy..., Doc Kunda <tantric_oneATnospamn...> wrote:
> --Shiva-- wrote:
>
> > I am assuming that you wish to become a teacher?
>
> You can tell? :-)~
>
> >
> > but, that was a case of 'I want control/victory over my enemy'....
> > what happens if you do not have such an enemy...
>
> What happens if you know that, I repeat if you know that,
> and still choose to then dive into and play in and be an
> active force in the beautiful drama of life with all its
> splendor on a level that humanity can enjoy or benefit from,
> while your enjoying the experiences of this journey. These
> are other peoples perceived enemies or analogies for
> enemies. Maybe they need to be used and slain along the
> path of collective or individual growth to realizing they
> were just paper tigers.
>
> What if you have the psychic framework and power to do just
> that, and do it well? Should you? Doc now getting sad.
> :-(
>
> Doc not sure many understand questions any more.
Shivah and I both understand the question I am afraid that it is you
who doesn't. It requires a very refined discernment. You must
understand doing and being.
> I guess I will rephrase the question again. I feel a good
> run on sentence coming. Take a deep breath.
><snip>what gives you the right to act on those
> visions/energies and become an influence of magnitude, in
> effect changing the world, or at least your own little part
> of it.
You have the right to BE yourself. You have the right to express
yourself as long as these two things do not oppress anyone else. You
have the right to control your evolution and help others who request
your help.
Everything has to be allowed for the sake of experiment. You have
the right to learn from your own mistakes. If you continue making
the same mistake, look out! You have the right to prove things to
yourself.
>
> Is it a right, a choice, or a duty to proceed? That is a
> different way to put it. These visions are Scary because
> they will require boldness and the risk of personal failure
> is always a missed message/inuition or breath away. There
> is no rest, yet the ride is magic. It is being on the edge
> of life so to speak.
You must take full responsibility for yourself. This is always,
already the case. It is known as Karma. if you choose to suffer
even your suffering will be enjoyable.
> I personally feel this is everybody's potential manifest
> destiny to not just to go around reacting to life and
> situations around them like most do now, but to become
> Kundalini/Spirit/Christ energized and educated to the point
> of taking an active participatory role in the creation of
> whatever they and Life are becoming. You have to really
> cross your thinking between a good sci-fi movie and
> Magic/Miracles to grasp the purpose/perspective I feel is a
> spiritual birthright for each and every one of us on this
> list and this planet. I would just call myself an early
> bloomer or something. No different than anybody else in
> absolute potential as a participant in Life. Most
> definitely no better!
You are right. God does not work with cowards. They are the
lukewarm water that will be spit out of his mouth. Daskalos
says, "the murderers of yesterday are the Messiahs of tommorrow."
Jesus said to the man impaled next to him, "truly I tell you. Today,
you will be with me in paradise."
Joshua Shivahmurti
>
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