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Recieved: 2002/06/26 20:11
Subject: [K-list] LONG Intro--Reply To Jason
From: Brett Ramsdell
On 2002/06/26 20:11, Brett Ramsdell posted thus to the K-list:
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 16:45:57 EDT
> From: LBra782595ATnospamaol.com
> Subject: Brett's Introduction
>
> Hi Brett,
Hi Jason,
>
> On Fundamentalist Christianity: It is exactly that--fundamental; it's like
> learning your ABCs. The problem you had was that the people you were with
> thought that because they knew thier ABCs they were qualified to analyze
> Shakespeare. There are quite a few steps in between I believe. Start with
> the fundamentals but never succumb to the notion that fundamentalism is all
> there is.
Agreed! Joseph Campbell says that its important not to confuse the myth with
reality. Realize that you need to read spiritual texts for their connotative
meaning not the denotative meaning. Makes a bunch of sense to me. Not unlike
your analogy Jason.
>
> On Breathing: I am not familiar with Holotropic Breathwork, but I'm about to
> be thanks to your post.
>I'm looking forward to mixing it with the Holotropic
> Breathing. (Jason rubs his hands together in anticipation--a glazed look
> coming into his eyes...."Muhahahah")
I think that sounds like a great idea. Let us know how it goes. Although it
might be difficult to meditate while doing Holotropic Breathwork. It uses
breathing that can be somewhat akin to hyperventilation. Things can get a
little crazy during the process depending on how hard you breathe.
>
> On smoking pot and meditation: Be careful here, I've done this a few
> times..it's unpredictable at best.
I can only imagine. I've never meditated under the influence. I sometimes
feel the K run very strongly after smoking pot but I don't do it while
meditating.
>Drugs may induce altered states of
> consciousness, but they always have side effects. I learned to look at
> smoking as sort of getting a preview of whats to come in meditation....Like
> it was showing you the next thing or few things you are going to be
> experiencing. It is a shortcut, but the goal is the journey, not the
> destination. Learn to achieve the same meditational state without chemical
> assistance.
Interesting. That's pretty much what Aldous Huxley said about psychoative
drugs. You eventually move beyond the need for them. I don't really smoke
for spiritual development. More for entertainment.
>On Cracking and Kriya's: I get those too. They are the energy clearing
out
> blockages. Muscular contractions, spontaneous asanas, cracking spine, I've
> even had my sinuses pop (I've always had trouble with congestion and swollen
> sinuses) When K rises, my sinuses pop and then clear up. The most
> interesting effect I get is that sometimes my eyes will open wide..I mean
> WIDE. And I will look around as if I've never seen anything at all before,
> like vision is new experience. Kinda bizzare, but nothing to worry about.
> It's all GOOD!
That's what i figured. I think of it as my own self administered form of
chiropractic. Why spend money on adjustments when i can do it myself? LOL!
>
> On ringing ears: Each chakra creates a specific sound. In kriya yoga we
> learn how to listen for these sound and place our attention on that chakra or
> the next one above it if the lower one can be clearly heard. Each step up is
> a more subtle sound and more difficult to hear. The first chakra sounds like
> crickets; the second, a mild ringing...the third, something akin to a pan
> flute; the fourth, tinkling bells or a gong; the fifth, I high pitched
> metallic sound; the sixth, glorious trumpets; the seventh, thunder.
> Sanskrit has spoken words associated with each of the these sounds.
Well...I'd have to say that mine sounds like the hi-pitched metallic sound.
But i hear it pretty much all the time.
>
> Jump on into the Fray!
>
Thanks for the invite Jason. I'll take you up on that offer. I really apc
you taking time to give such thoughtful advice. You folks are good people
for sure. Thanks to everyone for making me feel at home.
>
Pax et lux,
Brett
>
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