To: K-list
Recieved: 2002/06/25 09:39
Subject: Re: [K-list] Digest Number 1058
From: Soitpp
On 2002/06/25 09:39, Soitpp posted thus to the K-list:
In a message dated 6/25/02 7:06:13 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
K-list writes:
>
> If time and space do not exist, what is evolution.
ALOT of fun! Who says time and space do not exist?? ;P
> If everything is happening all at once, what is progress?
progress is learning to be cooool
> The more things change, the more they stay the same...
it sounds like you're disillusioned, .. trying to write an end to the story,?
erase the mystery? what happened to the joy of "suprises"? "No suprises.."
~Radiohead
>
> You can access this file at the URL
>
> files/abound01.mp3
>
> To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit
I hope you know that takes up mad space and each yahoogroup has only a
limited amount of storage space for files.. you might consider simply linking
the mp3 in the bookmarks section having it stored on another server
> wow, just when I think I'm unique I find others who are just the
> same.
I used to feel that way, but it was stupid, you and I ARE unique, .. we're
just not "better" ... we're even SPECIAL!! We're just not "better"!! Hah..
(hint: meaning everyone is unique and special and no one is better, 's what
I'm getting at here ;p)
> I also see faces when I'm going to sleep. They are of all
> different people, frozen in a certain expression. The "photographic"
> images are just that.. like pictures. I figured they were just part
> of my imagination.. Like maybe this is my brain's way of dealing with
> all the hundreds of people one comes across in life. Now I'm
> wondering if there is another, more supernatural explanation. They
> never scare me..they merely entertain me before I fall asleep.
> nicole
>
do you physically see them? or do you see them with your 3rd eye?
> , my
> landlord, he believes in time and he owns this space
and you believe in your landlord! ;-)
> When I think about giving *this* existance up
> in order to enter or create a world in which time and space doesn't
> have its place I fear my wee little mind rejects it, not because I
> don't believe it is possible but because I am for the most part quite
> content with this existance even with the restraits of time and the
> confines of space.
yeahhhh...... or maybe it's because your mind knows "the way out is through"
> really dig into this illusion, as if it does matter. And, if
> all things are possible then really, it does matter! especilly if we
> are creating our own delusions, our existances, or lack of existances
> make it matter, if we want to keep existing or if we decide to stop
> altogether, might very well depend on it making a difference to at
> least one of us.
>
oooh,,.. how sad it is that we could be convinced it actually doesn't matter
> This kind of existance. or that if I do
> that the landscape will have changed before I have had the
> opportunity to fully experience all that is here NOW.
maybe you'z worried you're going to miss out on God... I felt that way before
too, but that is when the time/space non-existance and existance of
everything at once do come in handy.. different truths for different tooths
:)
> I wonder if maybe that
> is why we imagined time and space to begin with, Because we are just
> that powerful and the universe so accomodating that we needed to
> disect our existance more fully to appricate more fully what it is
> that we have done, and what we are capable of. Not only of our
> creations, but for our destructions also.
> Blessing to us All whatever we be.
> Lavina
>
ahhhhhhh so much that resonates with me, thank you a great much for sharing
in your ideals Lavina
> something higher but at the same time it seems kinda ignorant,
heh
> think i'll go to one of those churches some day.
it would be fun to burst their bubbles
> Is the evolution of resonance
> mutual with biological evolution in the sense that if one evolves the
> other does too? My guess is yes.
I'd say yes too, and that it's one in the same, especially considering matter
is a vibration of energy
> I stick with Darwins theory of
> natural selction, but at the same time i think there is more.
Darwin doesn't take personality into account,.. there is no moral to his
story, it's just garbage for all Darwin cares
> I'd like to see what some of you have to say on this, i can't get it
> straight, one day i have one idea then next i have another.
my suggestion is try to think of it this way, When you die, you die. Don't
ask questions, just accept it the way your intuition feels, don't ask, just b
e.. the answer might come sooner than you think
> The best advice I could give anyone in this position is to welcome
> and accept the restorative process - because, if you go looking
> for some esoteric answer - or make what's happening wrong,
> you'll start the whole process over again .. and have to go through
> it again ..
You can also help out by surrendering to your desire, I've found we cannot
truly move forward unless we do so,.. I'd like to add that "desire" IS the
manifestation of Kundalini itself,.. but , mm.. maybe not *everything* there
is to know about K eh ;) I like to keep things open
> now .. release the belief that you have to screw everything up.
ughh.. the worse belief of all.. always got me in a heap of trouble and doubt
and.. just shitty things in general
> Right, so I'm sitting here tickling Ms K, but can't get it up...er...Her up.
> What is this? Every 16 years I build up enough Karma for the Lady to Ride
> me? Or does She take me for a ride?
Bahh, you are the rider Kenneth, never doubt it
> but Kundalini Lady maybe I'm not just lightin your fire.
remember, Kundalini is a part of you, not seperate from you, it is your
essential nature Kenneth,.. yet we continue, (you and I both, and many
others) to pretend we are divisable, continuing to believe our real selves
are foolhardy, worthless or unworthy.. nay we may as yet demonstrate those
attributes!! We must still hewn the darkness, so.. in the tradition of self
empowerment passed down from one coffee house to the next jazz theater, "no
sniveling"
>
> Beautiful...
>
>
> > If time and space do not exist, what is evolution.
> > If everything is happening all at once, what is progress?
> > The more things change, the more they stay the same...
>
>
yeahh.. I can see the beauty in this.. there is deep beauty in the truth of
nothingness and timelessness.. such is all handled well by the Mayan
calendar.
It's like. You can say one thing. And it's beautiful. And Mystress can say
the same exact thing, and it'll still be just as true, but I just feel an
empty joylessness from her, so I respond to her differently,.. like she has
an intention behind
her words.. just the tiniest discrepancy, which I just can't tolerate
The truth of nothing... !! YES.. the truth of everything as well !! In one
of enya's songs on her album "A day without rain" she reminds us there is a
solution to every cunundrum, "Where there is darkness, look for the sun,
where there is romance, look for the one, For the promises, there is this
lie" etc. etc.
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