To: K-list
Recieved: 2002/06/24 15:50
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Evolution question
From: hbrost
On 2002/06/24 15:50, hbrost posted thus to the K-list:
Hello again,
I would like to address some of the statements you make. You wrote:
you can say that this "god" is the "creator of everything" but, if
you do that, then you are denying any possibility of your having a
personal choice or free will - or, in fact, of ever changing who
you are without the permission of this "greater being".
From whom do you need permission? That's the whole point! You DON'T need permission; you HAVE free will! You change Who You Are by changing your "mind" but you can't change Who You Are! ;-)
Yes - there is a "god" - the one created in the minds of human kind.
This may be backwards. Personally, my belief, and it seems like many before me, believe "God" created the mind and the Self. We humans cannot create anything but miracles. This is an age-old Hindu belief.
BUT, this is NOT the creative impetus for all life. The English
language provides limitations here, especially as we have to use
words to define "life" and "existence" in spiritual terms which
(for the most part) found their way into the English Language
from Roman Catholic Latin Doctrine.
Emmmm, it may be that the Roman Catholic Doctrines "picked and chose" amongst more ancient words. Sir Francis Bacon, not King James, probably wrote the King James Version on the Bible -- and he was a Rosacrutian! Saint Thomas, it is believed, went into Asia, India in fact, and started a Church there. The sound of AHHHH is universal.
One step at a time .. if you can allow the limitations of Christianity
to be peeled away, then you will find that there are some parallels
between this Religion and others ..
ABSOLUTELY!!!
When you look at these origins and the other meanings, the only
conclusion is that what is preached_from_the_pulpit_on_sunday
is an outright lie denigned to manipulate and control human kind
beyond their potential of self-determination.
My personal opinion is that it is from fear. It is from the ego. Egos now run the churches of today.
Bottim line - you cannot believe in the Christian "God" and Kundalini
at the same time - the two are irreconcilable - as many of the
great mystics of the ages have well documented.
Now here is my problem when reading many posts on this List. Thank you for writing the above sentence. Me, I, wholeheartedly believe in the Holy Spirit through Jesus, the Christ, AND the concept of Kundalini at the same time. They are totally reconcilable. What AREN'T we told of Jesus' travels? WHY does the Christian church play down mysticsm, out of body experiences, being in two places at one time, walking thru doors?, visions, astral travel??? Here's my answer and then I'll shut up. My answer is that people, many "Christian" people are content to be "safe." They are content to live with answers that aren't answers simply because they don't want to WORK to find the God, the Self, within. Because they are content with going on about their little lives, content in nice little myths... and fear. They ignore simple life "synchronicities" and chalk everything up to "coincidence." They choose to allow their egos to run their lives. Well, I'm preaching to the choir here on the List(!) and thank you all for reading, but I don't believe in Goddess, serpents, pain and/or suffering, but here I am!! Seeking -- and finding -- God the same way you all are -- and Christian at the same time.
Love,
Hety
Having said that, I do understand your predicament ..
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