To: K-list
Recieved: 2002/06/11 12:02
Subject: Re: [K-list] The Ego/Morality Debate
From: Soitpp
On 2002/06/11 12:02, Soitpp posted thus to the K-list:
THIS IS OLD.. it was also in my "to send" folder.. and I guess I forgot to
send it. So here it is. Old News. But worth sharing I suppose.
In a message dated 5/21/02 5:41:57 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
K-list writes:
>
> Most of us knew right from wrong before the end of 1st grade (don't hurt
> others, etc.). As we age the issues become more complex but the guidelines
> are all still valid.
>
>
1st grade.. there were the "mean" kids who were pushy, they wanted the new
nice looking trike. So did I.. but I didn't push back. I felt hurt.. and
helpless. They felt good. That is morality.
> If you listen to your inner wisdom, you wont try to predict the events or
> evolution in advance nor will you ever try to organize morality.. You can't
> change anyone but yourself..
*whew* you said it Åsa
> How all who died had agreed
> in their higher selves to die to make the world better so there was no
> murder. Yada yada yada..... Pure horseshit! Please let's not have a repeat
> of how that wasn't evil, regardless of how much the idea upsets the idea
> that duality doesn't exist and is not around you every moment of every day.
they're doing their BEST to see the good in the situation, you're doing your
best to RACK their BALLS, what is that gunna do, is just gunna put them down
and along come the long faces, people need hope, hope inspires, RACKING BALLS
just hurts, what's the difference, they didn't come to you saying PURE
HORSESHIT, if they did, by all means.. rack away ... even then.. conflict
like that is useless.. am I conflicting with you? is there any catch all
rules.. ? do I believe Joe will listen to reason? If I believe so I will
speak accordingly,.. such life..
> >Humans didn't get in trouble with God until they "ate" of the fruit of the
> >tree of the knowlege of good and evil.
>
ughhhh. "God" in this sense is quite evil, while the knowledge would be
empowering .. any God who says no to knowledge is like hitler
> ... i suppose that the folks who blew up the World Trade Center felt
> they were performing their duty...
indeed they did
> disdain for the
> hijackers
let's just keep one thing in mind.. we get ALL our information from MASS
MEDIA REPORTS.. we WERE NOT THERE, point #1 be open to the impossible
> so many folks who believe they are "doing their duty" seem to do some nasty
> stuff, and quite often impose their will on other folks without their
> consent... why do you think this is a useful and important word?
it's important to Joe percyval, .. why not let his elation be yours?
> What percyval is telling you, is that ego is not wise in knowing its
> happiness. Ego can give you attainments, but surrender can give you bliss.
>
I think what Laura is trying to say is something that I share.. ' I have a
dream' Yes I do.
> Prayers of gratitude for having get a second
> helping of more having... even if the having is not actual.
then.. if you feel gratitude, it is actual, isn't it
> Pray rain.
hehehe, pray rain.. always :)
> My druid has a sig file that asks, "If electricity comes from
> electrons, does morality come from morons?"
LoL.. that's good enough to fwd to some friends, I'm beginning to like your
druid more and more
> Immoral not to, as it
> prevents teen pregnancies, unwed mothers and children growing up to be
> criminals... Genital mutilation is preferable, in their view.
feh, an ugly and necessary evil.. to my western heart evokes great rage,..
but opening my heart to eastern ideals.. my rage subsides..
> "The, thankfully dead, clown was a
> fATnospam&king moron."?
it feels good to club someone, but it feels even better to feel the light in
them.. which can be the hardest thing on earth to do, to "suck it up"
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