To: K-list
Recieved: 2002/06/10 20:40
Subject: [K-list] Go Joe!!!
From: Keith Chapman
On 2002/06/10 20:40, Keith Chapman posted thus to the K-list: *applause* GO JOE!!!!
Keef
PS. If you did recieve hate mail, to me that's all the more reason for you
to stay! You make people think! I luv ya bud!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joseph Miller
> To: K-list
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 12:20 PM
> Subject: [K-list] Re: Pleiadians
>
>
> > >Guess insulting people and their beliefs is more universal than I
> >thought.
> >
> >I didn't insult anyone's beliefs.
>
> I was responding to your comments and the comments you quoted in your
> post.
> If you reread that you'll find my reply fits in that context. Perhaps
> your
> intent was only to pile on the person, not his policies. I don't know
> your
> politics.
>
> Actually I don't care one way or the other who you like or who you
> vote for
> or against. I don't like the clutter of off topic posts and on this
> list.
> Political posts are about as on topic (whether praising or condeming a
> party
> or officer holder) as spam would be. So that bugged me. Add to that a
> large
> number of the members of this list don't live in the US and it is way
> off
> topic.
>
> But that wasn't the reason for my post. I was making a point. I
> expected it
> to get a rise, and from my off list traffic, it has done that.
>
> My point was it isn't insults, rudeness, harsh statements, or the like
> that
> people find objectionable. Those are perfectably acceptable to
> individuals
> and to a group, if a critical mass of the group agrees with the who
> the
> victim should be. Bigotry is OK, just hate the right people.
>
> By way of example, please forgive me while I go off topic for a
> moment.
> Republicans should admit that however a disgusting immoral bastard
> they may
> think Clinton to be, without him there would have been no welfare
> reform
> (something they've wanted for years and something that needed fixing,
> whether what was done was the thing to do or not is a different
> question).
> Democrats should admit that Regan's programs gave the push that tipped
> the
> USSR into falling apart and, here's the payoff they've all wanted for
> years,
> ending the cold war (how much of an improvement that is, remains to be
>
> seen).
>
> But it is rare to hear those admissions. Examine your feelings as you
> read
> those lines, were you dispassionate about them, willing to admit them
> both
> to be right?
>
> My earlier comments, that brought me hate mail demanding I drop off
> the
> list, were strong, too strong. But at least my anger at someone and
> some
> ideas was not such that I brought it into a list where it had no
> business
> being. It was on topic, if it wasn't the most nicely stated post.
>
> I know my mistakes, I just thought I'd hold up a mirror and help
> others as I
> was helped. Some have found that unpleasant.
>
> Namaste,
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
> >
>
> >
>
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