To: K-list
Recieved: 2002/05/27 07:27
Subject: [K-list] Re: Shaktipat in UK, LONDON?
From: Joseph Miller
On 2002/05/27 07:27, Joseph Miller posted thus to the K-list:
>Yes I have heard that it is possible to awaken the kundalini this
>way. But when someone like Shri Anandi Ma or Swami Shivom Tirth gives
>shaktipat it not only causes the kundalini to awaken but also causes
>Yoga (union with god). Is it possible that you can achive this on
>your own?
Jaspal,
"On your own" open to debate. The standard way is to be guided by a master.
It is rare to be realized without such a guiding and helping hand but it has
happened. Getting it without shaktipat is the standard way and has been for
centuries and centuries, actually for several thousand years.
Shaktipat has been around for centuries but it has never been the most
advised way to awaken K. Each of us is unique. Some of us have problems with
our nadis and if those of us who do have problems get shaktipat and aren't
around a master to help them, serious problems can and too often do happen.
The popularity of shaktipat is a 20th (and 21st) century thing due to us as
students not being willing to take the time to do it safely. Traditionally
the teacher worked to help the student awaken his/her own K. Then learn the
lessons as it made its way toward the Bindhu point at the crown. Today the
decent teachers who do shaktipat have accepted that their students won't do
anything or at least won't do enough (as a group, not a particular
individual) so they give the short cut and hope people with problems get
back to them for help. One doesn't have to be enlightened to give it, some
people who give it don't realize what they could be causing, others don't
care.
If you get it be sure you are in a position to get back to a master should
something go wrong. It is best if it is the master who gave it, assuming
he/she does understand all the possible complications.
As to getting union with God (Muksha) from shaktipat, I've seen nothing in
the scriptures to indicate it is possible for people starting from scratch
to do that through Shaktipat alone, on any but the very rarest of
occassions. I've also know more than a dozen people who've gone the
shaktipat route and none have as yet made it, except for one womanm who
worked very very hard, doing mediatation, mantra, etc. for about an hour a
day over period of a few years after the initial shaktipat experience.
Shaktipat can get you started and move you a fair piece along the way. If
you are very advanced and have a blockage something that for clarity
shouldn't be labeled the same thing can get you through that blockage but
that is very seldom used because things get even more delicate as you go up
so the danger can be much greater there.
Safety says work for it and get it by your own efforts.
Namaste,
Joe
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