To: K-list
Recieved: 2002/05/23 11:13
Subject: Re: [K-list] lightbulb!
From: Vince Mora

--- druoutATnospamaol.com (Hillary) writes:
> True enough, but often there seem to be mis-signals.
> One of my first
> *understandings* was that Pain and Pleasure are
> really the same in that they
> are both, at one level, simply sensations.

That's right - and we (oneself, people in general) are
not our sensations. Our sensations are a part of us,
a subset - not us.

There's a quote by Thich Nhat Hanh that I think of:
"Sense pleasures are borrowed possessions; they do not
belong to us, and we cannot hold onto them."

On the physical level, we naturally seek out pleasure
and avoid pain. But if we get too wrapped up in this,
we start letting it dictate our actions. Better to
enjoy it in context and in perspective.

I think we all need to go through our "indulgence"
phase - and the more we are allowed to (or let
ourselves) explore it, the less restrained and held
back we'll be later on, since it will have already
been explored.

> Sometimes K energy can be so
> pleasurable it's downright painful.

I know what you mean; thank you for reminding me of
how pleasure and pain crisscross :)

With love and respect,
Vince

>
> Most people have experienced pain/pleasure phenomena
> in some form.
>
> Love, Hillary
>
>
In a message dated 5/22/2002 4:52:19 PM Pacific
> Daylight Time,
> el_bombastico256ATnospamyahoo.com writes:
>
>
> > Pain is not supposed to feel good!!
> > It is a defense mechanism built after millions of
> years of evolution
> > to let you know when something in your body is
> damaged or hurt, it's
> > part of your nervous system, it's meant to be a
> bad feeling. Thats
> > physical pain anyway, maybe u are both talking
> about something else i
> > hope.

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