To: K-list
Recieved: 2002/05/20 15:37
Subject: [K-list] Ler's be real with each other Re: wanting and homeless and love...
From: lionessbleu1
On 2002/05/20 15:37, lionessbleu1 posted thus to the K-list:
dear erik,
> >
> > All relationships that one person has is a reflection of their
> > relationship with their inner Self or God/dess. This does not
just
> > mean relationships with other people but relationships with things
> > like food and shelter for Divine Consciousness is present in all
> > atoms in the material world.
>
> could you please give me a better understanding or a relatively good
> recursive definition for "Divine consciousness" please?
I don't know about recursive but I do know from personal experience
that "God is in the details" (Albert Einstein). Whether you call it
God/dess, Divine Consciousness, the stuff of the
Universe...Intelligence innervates the material and immaterial. Don't
ask me to prove it...I can't.
>
>
> > No woman is going to want a love relationship with a homeless
> person
> > unless she is either a victim with a martyr complex or a homeless
> > person like yourself. An emotionally healthy woman is going to run
> > screaming off into the other direction away from you rather than
> > bring you and your needy problems into her life. There is nothing
a
> > real woman hates more than a needy man.
>
> Let me get that right, (i'm making sure i'm not confused by what you
> just said) you said "there nothing a real woman (what the differnce
> if> she isn't real?) hates more than a needy man." I suppose she
would
> want anything either?
I guess you would want to make love to an artificial woman, less than
authentic, not genuine...an extension of your projections? A real
woman defined by me is emotionally healthy...more than just the
environmental 3D meat suit that she inhabits.
> But then i never said i knew what a woman wanted, did I?
This woman and all her real women friends will tell you what they
want. Oh, and not to be sexist about it...real men will tell you what
they want in a woman and they do not enjoy needy women as well.
>
> >You might as well paint
> > yourself with good woman repellant magic. :)
>
> Well, i'm close, i've been wearing the same clothes for the last
> three> months!
Yes...that would definately make a woman want you...especially the
kind that wants to save and rescue you...sorta like your mom and if
you want to make love to your mother...go ahead.
>
> > Unless you are Jesus, Ghandi,
>
> Well, there both dead...fortunately or unfortunately...your choice
on
> the view, i'm stil breathing...
Dead or not...they left an example...
.
>
> > or some wandering spiritual master who
> > uses their homelessness as an instructional divine tool to serve
> > others it is time for you to take action
>
> ...well, i live day to day, and wander around with a packsack full a
> cool books...
If that satisfies you...go for it.
>
> >and change your
> > circumstances.
>
> ...circumstance will change, it's just a matter how i change myself
> to
> the situation...
Then you desire to be in the situation you are in....and if it is so
simple to change then why are you writing the list about your
situation?
>
> >If you were a spiritual you wouldn't be on this list.
>
> REally? wow, why do you say that?
Freudian slip. I left the word master out. But if the Freudian slip
is an indication of what my unconscious believes...there it is. I
should qualify by saying that authentic masters won't be making
statements about their life like you are.
>
> > You have forgotten that you are perfection
>
> well, i do tend to forget lots of things, but it's not intentional.
> With regards to being perfect, not yet, i still have some
> conditioning
> issue that need some attention, mostly resulting from past abuses.
>
> >and you deserve all the
> > wonderful things that life has to offer.
>
>
> And that would consist of?
If you do not know or even begin to understand the wonderful,
ecstatic joy of relishing life on this planet...I do not know where
to even begin with you. Do you believe you deserve anything of value?
>
>
> >You are one with the
> Creator
> > of the Universe. Why not start living like one or at least acting
> > like one?
>
> How does "one start living in oneness with the Creator of the
> Universe
> (what's that mean? creator of the Universe?)" or to at least act
like
> one?
When one discovers the true Self that lives within all of us. The
neat thing is we are all the same inside...our Selves are one with
each other..and that Divine Consciousness. We are all god/goddeses
manifesting in different ways, different aspects of complete
perfection. You are the creator of the Universe. You are also it's
destroyer. We all are.
One of the wonderful qualities of kundalini awakening is this drawing
into and merging with the Oneness of all life in a real heartfelt way.
>
> >You are not a victim of your circumstances.
>
> No, i'm a victim of the governments lack of care about the people it
> collects its money from. Everything else, That I Was Born into, is
> well, my choice right? I have the choice to change the laws that
> govern this sovereign nation, with the snap of fingers, for an
> example
> anyway. But then my ego always likes to blame the government and
> everything associated with its structure and implimentation.
Declaring yourself a victim of the government or whatever you point
your finger at negates your right of free will and disempowers you by
taking and diluting your ability to take responsibility for yourself
and the determination of your future. Blaming what you are on
something else perpetuates the victim status. But then that is your
choice...to have no choice. So the Universe honors your exercising of
your free will...which is to have none...so you have none. What a
powerful creator you are!
And an emotinally mature woman can smell that a mile away and knows
it is just a small step before you begin blaming her for what you
don't have and how miserable your life is.
>
>
> > I only say to you what I have said to myself. I only speak to you
> out
> > of my own experiences.
>
> WEll, maybe i have a long way to go. I'm definately not going to go
> in search of money and objects so that some "real" woman will want
me.
> Put it this way, if someone wanted to get to know me, all i have is
> my
> brain and what it's capable of expressing ( i guess i should include
> my body, that's if 'real women' care about that aspect, i don't
> really
> know.) and if 'real' woman can see that, then i guess i'm bummin'
eh?
I never said a real woman wants money and objects and your body...you
did. Jesus, Ghandi, Krishna and others had their female followers who
were powerful women. If you think that is all a powerful woman is
interested in ...well, they are not but it does make the woman's
choices a whole lot easier.
All things considered...if everything was equal and I had to choose
between two men who were level on all things except one was poor and
had no home and the other could take me out for a nice dinner and
offer me a nice comfortable couch to sit on while we play and flirt
and kiss...who do you think I would choose? I don't want to make
love to a bum, do you?
Susan
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't stop."
Philip K Dick
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