To: K-list
Recieved: 2002/05/14 17:49
Subject: [K-list] re: Digest 995
From: Soitpp
On 2002/05/14 17:49, Soitpp posted thus to the K-list:
> There seem to be many histories "out there",
indeed there are, read them all, absorb them, and run them across your heart
meter, if they interest you.. you will find similarities in them. You might
look at them like I do, as several fuzzy photographs, look at enough fuzzy
photographs you can get a general idea of what transpired
> If this story is told by a chritian
> priest and he explains the great accomplishments of the 1rst
> "crusades", then what am i led to believe?
naturally, nobody can decide but you. If you choose to believe nothing, that
is a choice as well.
> it was a war set like this, capatalist vs. communist.
sadly it was nothing more than corporations vs. people
> What about the lions?
they roar?
> honey!!!
> dew!!!
> ;)!!!
> ~!!!
> !!
> ?
hehe, your'e cute.
> On the elements: The system of elements constisting of water, fire, earth,
> wood and metal is the chinese system of elements(I don't understand it
either
> but they use it) The earth, air, fire, water, ether/spirit is the western
> European system.
oh, kewl, thanks for telling me that
> On Atlantis: It really doesn't where Atlantis was, the fact is the "Idea"
of
> Atlantis has become an Archetype for us. The lesson is: Don't let your
> knowledge exceed your wisdom or you'll be in BIG TROUBLE. Searching for
the
> remains of a something that old under the ocean is just about pointless.
> Just learn.
earth's history is important to me, I learn as much as I can. I've learned
just about enough now. I just needed to absorb the archtypes/ general idea of
what transpired. Turns out earth really is as special as it seemed to us as
children.
> A much more viable and affordable method for proving
> the existance of Atlantis than underwater archeology.
I'm definately not out to prove anything
> If we could unlock
> thier method or data storage, we wouldn't need to dig anything up.
I'm sure the technology is already available if you can dig deep enough
> On "Keeping Track": What I meant was, to establish some kind record of
> blatant sychronicities occuring in our lives and then compare our results
> with one another.
sounds kewl.. you'll let us know if you come up with anything ;O) right?
Here's an idea, you might collect a list of the most common sync's and run a
poll to see who's experienced them.. ?
> just thought it might be interesting and something valuable might be gained
heh, yeah ;)
> The line is: The Hook brings you back. Hook refers to
> the part of the song that catches your attention and sticks in your head.
> This is a song about songwriters who use cheesy methods of making songs
sell.
> I know this because I perform this song on stage from time to time. It
> could also be argued that government uses similar tactics.
it's all good to me babe
> On poetry: In the truest sense, every poem you ever read was written
> especially for you.
;)
> : " It
> is much easier for you as civilized person to act like a barbarian than it
is
> for him, a barbarian, to act as civilized person.
lol, well said.. or quoted, rather ;)
> Sometimes lately, I seem to get a rush of K-energy in response to
> certain environmental sounds. It hasn't happened often but I have
> had a lot of sensitivity in my ears. Can anyone relate or does
> anyone have any information about this? Thanks!
hmm... I think this happens to me sometimes too.. but I consider it more of a
syncronicity,.. not really the actual sound which is causing the comotion,
but really just a crux of thought, see the whole, not the part
> Hi my name is Justin - i'm from Phoenix, AZ and i'm 24. Just wanted to say
> hi.
Hi Justin! ;O) ::waves happily:: Aaron, 22, from Albuquerque, NM here
> The winners of wars write history. If the muslims had won the crusades we
> would here quite a different story. Imagine what German historians would
> say of the Americans if they had won the second world war. The names
> Churchill and Roosevelt would be occupying the same place as Hitler is in
our
> continuum. People study history but never seem to see it repeat before
thier
> very eyes, probably because they don't want to.
the way it happened was the only way it could have happened, which boggles
the logical mind, follow the stories, see the "moral" behind each story, and
it makes sense, Hitler couldn't have possibly won, even tho the logical mind
dictates he could have "easily" won if he had done this or that, and not done
this or that, it didn't happen that way because that's not how the story
goes, again, the logical mind fails to grasp, it works with variables and
chaos, the heart interprets the story, this is Earth now, not Mulduk, not
Atlantis, this is Earth now, "stop, look, listen" ~Autechre
> When I do take the time, it becomes laughable and
> a perfectly understandable error.
lol, you're making me chuckle a bit now, it is funny isn't it
> How I envy those who live in that blissful
> state every second.
But why? Aren't you thankful for yourself? Your own very special self?
When I reach that ridiculously sought-after state of constant bliss it'll be
a completely different story, my knowledge, my life, my lifestyle,
everything, will be mine, my own, my own story, knowing that is the beginning
of understanding who I am, and why it is important and useful that I am not
blissful now, the un blissfulness is blissfulness, in disguise, it is
meaning, and fulfillment, in disguise, it is "your very special self" as
Erich liked to say. He was on this list a while back, it's how I found this
list, but I lost contact with Erich.
>Some days I seem to get closer and some days I seem to
>"backslide". From this little dissertation I suppose that we can deduce the
>equation: patience = empathy x time. Ergo patience/empathy=time.
>
> ACK!
ACK is right man! Logic overload for sure! heh ;P I do the same for sure..
we miss the magic of the present moment.. never fails..
> You might suggest to your nuerologist that he could win a nobel prize for
> proving the existence of kundalini.
heh heh heh, WHOOO,.. I wonder how many times in history someone tried to
take the shortcut.. if I could only convince so and so prolific scientist
of the scientific community to just.. take 5 minutes.. that is cause and
effect for you.. we've had zero-point generators since the invention of the
electric motor, we've never had a need for oil, ... which just goes to
show,.. it's all about love.. it's all about love.. *sigh* Majestic,
magnificant Earth.. and her story.. our story.. Anyone catch the Queen's
last rites? The universe always puts me right there in front of the T.V. set
for those pivitol moments, I never watch T.V. For example, I was there
watching Madonna for some reason or another.. and Eminem when "My name is"
first played on Mtv, I never watch Mtv! But there was, to watch history
happening
> Has anyone here learned to control their kundalini
> energy? Like to be able to move the vibrations from one
> part of your body to the next?
I can "cause kyras" in several of my joints/chakras, is that how you spell
kyras? probably not, lol... to some exent, but I just do it for the hell of
it when I'm lying on the ground/ lying around.. not really important or
something I lend much focus to.. it's the virtues and insights that cause the
kyras that are important.. if I notice I'm becoming distracted by my "special
abilities" I become disappointed in myself and usually return to meditating
on the void again
> So having sex with a 5 year old would be OK except for society's small
mind.
> (How awful those child molesters are so mistreated!) Murder is not wrong,
> except that society says it is. So there is no morality, only social
> convention.
>
> Horseshit!!!!!!
all this tribulation could be avoided if we would just stop looking to the
logical mind for answers and just trust the heart for once ::deep breath::
> Right and wrong exist, they are real beyond any small minds of society. If
> that weren't so you could rape all the 5 year olds you wanted and as long
as
> you weren't caught you'd be upstanding and moral, not look upstanding and
> moral but be upstanding and moral. Truth is you wouldn't be, you'd be less
> than an animal regardless of what some bozo with over 20 Rolls Royces said.
> And your karma would suck sssoooooooooooo bad!
again.. heart logic can be very medicating to these kinds of hot, heavy and
worrisome propositions
> Have no idea what he said about ego. Some levels of stupidity are so
> profound that listening to more jibberish from the speaker is a total waste
> of time. He may have said something bright on that topic, a stopped watch
is
> right twice a day, but the material around it is awful.
I do however present this idea to you. Feel his energy. Dig into him until
you feel his good, however burried it is, you'll know when you feel his good
when you no longer view him in a negative light. It is possible; even with
people you don't know very well.. such as imagery that is more archtypal in
nature, such as "thug" or "elitist"... take the archtype, give it a human
heart, dive into it, you will feel love if you trust that Love is in
everything.
> I know that I can never really know myself for I am never to be found..
> I am never me.. I am constantly changing..
Aha! the essential self is before and beyond the manifestation ;)
> To not get
> caught up for a millisecond by the flow and ebbs of the currents of
> life...
or TO get caught up ;) Surf's up dude heh..
> To stay outside of time.. Outside of identification. outside of
> thought. free of the mind.
*sigh* so you can sit in a dark cave all day.. never use your body? You
can't have fun and not have fun at the same time, it doesn't work ; P
> So I must also let go
> of my desire to not get caught up in things. Back to square one? Maybe..
heh.. ;) hehe... Fun!
> My only salvation is to stay in spirit. Wisdom of the moment.. No hope,
> nor no fear of any specific outcome.. Let spirit be the guide and never
> further waves to become caught within.. This is my only wisdom . knowing
> the manifestations of actions.
I'm worried you will kill your inspiration when it comes to you in the name
of worry for non-attatchment
> So my final observation is that becoming closer to living more out of
> spirit leads to a very fine line of what can stifle me or not.
the line is actually as broad as the horizon when the heart is open, it is
only the logical mind that views it as an impossibility (which is what it
becomes when we follow strict logic)
> Power is granted to lift people
> up and destroy them in a manner of speaking.
haha, like Slim Shady, "I'm lifting you.." if you mess with me while I'm
grocery shopping
> The difficulty is that there are still fragments of myself that believe
> they are better off trying to settle old scores and win attention from
> others. What is forgotten is that what is within me as divine power will
> always be so much more than what the outer manifestations can give to
> me.
it's up to us to consciously change our behaviour patterns.. Rev. Patrick at
our local Church of Religious Science said it best last Sunday, "Insanity is
when we expect things to change while doing the same thing we have always
done" Take the reins, it's your life. Don't let anyone tell you you don't
have the right. The first law is Free Will.. Love is the second law. Free
Will protects and sanctifies Love.
> Why oh why do I still play this crazy game .. Knowing I can never win
> it.. Why oh why did I make it so hard for myself to find my own
> centre.. Why oh why do I still not trust this within me to be my guide
> always.. Why do I cling to my own stupid ego...
hehehe Rich ::::big hugg::::: we all ask ourselves that ;) "Why oh why
did she swallow that fly.. I guess she'll die"
> A Piece of blue sky.. I seek..
Enya ;o)))
> "our problems end when we stop deciding (believing/assuming) that there
> is something wrong with us (something that needs fixing) as an
> individual."
:::deep breath::: I can take a few doses of that for sure ;)) hehe
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