To: K-list
Recieved: 2002/04/26 11:07
Subject: [K-list] Birthing poll interim results
From: Druout
On 2002/04/26 11:07, Druout posted thus to the K-list:
Dear List,
Only six people have so far responded to the Birthing poll. Whether or not
you agree with the *reasons* for the poll, it will be interesting to see
whether or not K active people have had different experiences at the
beginning of life! :)) Surely more than six of us have been born! The poll
question is below. My own response to the poll is as follows:
I don't know what drugs were involved, but I was a breach birth and a twin.
Probably a bit of rivalry there LOL! Strong nightly blissful experiences.
Other replies to date:
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Christopher wrote:
> I would be very interested in some sort of statistics which may
> relate the intensity and type of Spiritual Emergence (K) experience
> with the experiences and/or style/type of birth.
>
> I am particularly interested in any correlation that may exist
> relative to the repression of a child's natural life-force flow
> during the birthing moment
Well that explains it! The umbilical cord got caught round my neck and the
doctor panicked. The midwife took over, saved me from strangulation but not
before I ripped my mother's bits and pieces and she got whisked off to
another hospital on oxygen... or something like that. The one before me
died at birth of heart failure. Is this why my life's been so DRAMATIC
DARLINGS????!
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i am a c-section birth (stolen from the womb in my peaceful slumber:) and i
have only recently realized that i was never born!
i believe that this has affected me in ways that i don't yet understand...i
would be very interested in hearing other folks experience of this
affectionately,
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> Did you have a difficult birth?
As far as I know - no. My mother was still walking in the corridor of the
clinic with nearly full dilation. Then when they checked, she was ready to
push and pushed me out in two pushes - no drugs or anything.
> Have you had an easy or difficult K awakening?
Well, awakening K didn't seem to difficult - it was what came after for the
next 10 years that was extremely difficult, going through hell many times,
mania, psychosis.
> How intense has it been?
Very.
> I am particularly interested in any correlation that may exist
> relative to the repression of a child's natural life-force flow
> during the birthing moment by the use of labour assisting drugs,
> pain killers etc. This includes Caesarian section births.
So no, nothing like that, however, it was pregnancy that was very difficult
for my mother emotionally: my father backing out, leaving her, threatening
her and forcing her to have an abortion. When she didn't want to, he
publicly told lies about her, proclaimed her to be a slut, a whore etc.
I felt all of this inside the womb - since I relived it many times during
psychotic episodes and finally well-guided and without psychosis during
hypnotherapy.
Recently, during labour and childbirth, I felt a manic episode coming up in
my head. When I asked myself what was underneath; a deeply felt loneliness
came up, missing my father at (my own) birth, when I was a baby. I cried and
the starting mania disappeared. Some more old trauma cleared.
I start to believe fathers are indispensable - they should be there, with
all of their heart, to guide their children into the world.
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I am a c-section also. I don't know how that has affected me. I think being
born "differently" isn't the same as not being born at all. It's just
different, that's all. I was a heavy baby, 11 lbs. I had to be c section,
because I was so big. And my mom was in labor at the time, I probably was
ready to come out. My brother wasn't, he was a c section also, and when they
went to take him out he tried to crawl up into my mothers inards to escape.
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I was pulled from my mothers womb by forcepts. There are many stories around
my family about how they could never get me in a routine. I live that one to
this day, routines never work for me.
I guess I was about 5 when what could be K rising began.
I was sent to shrinks and tested for every neurological disorder known to
man until I was about 15 when I had enough and refused to cooperate any
further. The only diagnosis I ever got was bi polar and an over active
imagination.
As I stated in an earlier email, I began 'seeing' energy move when I was
about 7. My grandmother encouraged it but after she died (I was 9) my family
would chastise me for anything they percieved as abnormal. So I suppressed
it then.
Thanks everyone who has responded so far!
Love, Hillary
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Question:
Did you have a difficult birth?
Have you had an easy or difficult K awakening?
How intense has it been?
Thanks everyone!
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Chris writes:
I would be very interested in some sort of statistics which may
relate the intensity and type of Spiritual Emergence (K) experience
with the experiences and/or style/type of birth.
I am particularly interested in any correlation that may exist
relative to the repression of a child's natural life-force flow
during the birthing moment by the use of labour assisting drugs,
pain killers etc. This includes Caesarian section births.
**********
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