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Recieved: 2002/04/23 06:07
Subject: El Collie Tribute: Fwd: [K-list] Interesting Perspective
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
On 2002/04/23 06:07, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:
>To: kundaliniATnospamtopica.com
>Cc: SacredKundaliniATnospamonelist.com
>From: ckressATnospamaol.com
>Subject: [K-list] Interesting Perspective
>Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:07:43 -0800
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>I received an email from a Sufi teacher pertaining to Kundalini which I found
>very interesting. He gave me his permission to post it to the list. (At the
>end of his post are some comments I sent in reply to him.)
>In a message dated 1/14/00 3:45:11 AM Pacific Standard Time,
>puranATnospamappliedmeditation.org writes:
> > << I'm a meditation teacher in the Sufi tradition. I've mastered Samadhi,
> > the goal of Kundalini work, to the point that my heartbeat stopped for
> five
> > minutes in clinical tests in a hospital here in Boston. Also the Delta
>waves
> > in my EEG were very high, higher than in deep sleep. These waves are the
> > slowest of all brain waves and when produced consciously are another
> > indicator of Samadhi. Furthermore, I have many students that have done
>these
> > things. Of course these are just the outer indications; the inner
>experience
> > is one of being beyond life, space, and time, similar to death, in
> order to
> > conquer death's fear and understand life.
> >
> > But after 30 years of experience with Samadhi, I've stopped teaching it.
> >
> > First, it's just too dangerous. It can easily lead to a variety of mental
> > disorders that one doesn't see coming. It's not the "fast path" that many
> > think because it takes a long time to recover from the disassociativeness.
> >
> > Second, it's not helpful to a life in the world. Samadhi was
> developed for
> > use in a monastic setting. It's amazing and wondrous, but it's only
> > half-way. The second half of the path, according to the Sufis, is
> bringing
> > the realization of Samadhi back home and living it out. But for that, the
> > method needs to be completely different. Bringing it home uses the
>downward
> > energy, flowing in the spine in opposition to Kundalini. Also, if you see
> > "Living from the Heart" as the goal, then enormous progress can occur
>without
> > much Kundalini. So the meditation to practice in the downward type --
>that's
> > the harder part. Kundalini rises on its own, given even a slight boost
>from
> > conscious breathing. The harder part is to steer that energy into the
>heart
> > and let it express itself in heart-centered behavior.
> >
> > Third, it's been done. The frontier of human consciousness has moved
> on in
> > the last three thousand years. There are new challenges today, challenges
> > that are as exciting as it must have been for Yogi Patanjali and later the
> > Buddha to explore the world "beyond time and no time, beyond space and no
> > space, beyond existence and no existence." Instead of aspiring to NO
> > thoughts, I aspire to ALL emotions, all at once.
> >
> > If you are interested in the meditation of OUR time, concentrate on your
> > heart, not your etheric body. It's safe, it's practical, and it's very
> > challenging.
> >
> > The Web site for the Institute of Applied Meditation is a good place to
> > start. http://www.appliedmeditation.org
> >
> > Blessings from the heart,
> > Puran Bair
> > >
>.........................................
>
>The following are my comments to Puran:
>
>While I never developed your discipline for entering Samadhi states at will
>(or being able to suspend my biological functions), I began having
>spontaneous Samadhi states in the 60's and and Kundalini rose of its own
>accord (I was doing no practices to awaken it) in '91. I have experienced
>Kundalini-related phenomena daily ever since. I am very impressed by the
>innovative view you've expressed. I agree entirely with your emphasis on
>allowing oneself to experience the full range of emotions. In both the
>modern secular world and in many religious circles, emotion is regarded as an
>impediment to clarity of mind and spirit. I find that the opposite is true.
>Emotion and symbolic perception are both instinctual and primal intelligence:
>the language of the body and soul.
>
>The heart speaks most clearly through emotion and feeling. My heart chakra
>radiates heat whenever I am in the presence of someone with great
>heart-energy, which is how I can immediately identify them. In a similar
>manner, I am moved to tears by anything that expresses love. This is how I
>can distinguish the authentic from the imitation (which pervades so much
>religious/metaphysical/psychological lore).
>
>I used to push away emotional reactions of fear, anger, hurt, etc. when
>interacting with others, under the mistaken idea that these were judgmental
>responses. Now I appreciate them as an internal barometer which informs me
>when something is crying for attention : either something in the
>attitudes/ideas/behaviors of another needs to be addressed, and/or I need to
>re-examine my own motives and attachments. Sticking with feelings of
>fear/anger/woundedness invariably takes me to new levels of awareness and
>preserves (or restores) my integrity while enabling me to stay true in
>relationship to others.
>
>Best Wishes,
>El Collie
>
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