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Recieved: 2002/04/03 11:50
Subject: Re: [K-list] new member - current experiences
From: Elizabeth Moore
On 2002/04/03 11:50, Elizabeth Moore posted thus to the K-list:
First, I would like to say, "Welcome, Rick." You are in good company here.
There are many who have posted similar energy experiences such as yours and
I'm sure you will hear from them soon.
Next, is my observation of your meditation practice. Wow! Three times a
day? Forty minutes a session? How do you find time to do that and teach
class too? I feel fortunate to get twenty minutes a day in. Having said
that, I do frequently ground myself, but still, that's a far cry from 120
minutes! I'm amazed.
Thirdly, the energy you encounter at the base of your spine is one familiar
to me. I often feel it quite strongly as it moves into the crown of my head
When you explained about the tingles, I knew that feeling exactly. That
occurs with me several times a day even without meditating. Go figure! The
muscle cramps come sporadically and I whine a lot! ;-)
Lastly, I tend to lose consciousness quite easily, especially during orgasm.
It is more than hallucenogenic, it is completely out of the physical body
for me. I am safe in the knowledge that I will return to my physical self
and allow the "trip" to go on without resistance. It sounds like you are
not resisting your experiences either.
As for your interest in the Eucharist, I don't know. I've always felt that.
I love to take communion.
Again, welcome. You offer much to our midst.
Warmth and light,
Elizabeth
-------Original Message-------
From: riparker2002
Date: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 4:16:29 PM
To: K-list
Subject: [K-list] new member - current experiences
Hello. I am a new member, Richard Parker, a middle-aged professor of
educational psychology. Here is my recent story...............
I am a returning Catholic, with Buddhist leanings, though only
briefly took Hatha Yoga lessons.
I have been practicing Centering Prayer (Fr. Thomas Keating)for 72
days. I meditate three times per day, for 40 minutes each sitting.
During weeks 3-4 I experienced "out of normal consciousness"
or "splitting of awareness" experiences. Also, strong euphoric
electric-like energy currents and pressures coursed through body.
Spontaneous crying with gratitude after each session.
During weeks 7-8 I first noted the euphoric energy currents flowing
during the day when I ws simply introspecting and relaxed. I
suddenly developed a keen interest in church liturgy and sacred
music. I continued to copiously cry after Centering Prayer and at
various times during the day. Some unpleasant cottony headaches
begin, lasting all day. I learn how to partially control the energy
flow through a sort of "sub-breath" (like breathing, but more subtle
in nature).
During weeks 9-10 (current): Each session is composed of 4 types of
activities, with me having little say about the order or duration of
each. There may be some iteration.
A. Typical Centering Prayer: Adoring attention to Christ from my
heart, with shallow breathing of love into the heart. I am planful
and active in this activity. This tends to result in "B" and or "C"
below.
B. Self-propelled currents of warm, euphoric electric-like energy
emanating from my torso, heart, head, etc. I must maintain complete
passive and devotional for this. If I think about it or try to
direct it, it dries up, but then will restart on its own.
C. Trembling/shaking from minor to major throughout the body,
emanating from the anal spinal area. Usually only 5-20 second,s but
has lasted several minutes. I am not at all in control; could stop
it if I wished, but it seems wise not to. Can be strong enough to
nearly knock my off my prayer stool.
D. Prolonged and strong muscle contractions/cramping in orderly
succession from tailbone area, to stomach, to chest, to throat
(flinging head up and mouth open, or chin tucked in and upper spine
arched). Eventually the energy settles in the crown of head. My
hairs prickle and almost singed, but I touched the top of my head and
it wasn not noticeably hot.
In the last few weeks, I have also become aware during the day, at
times of repose, of the energy flowing or radiating through my body.
If I focus on it, my muscles can begin to spasm, so I just regard it
lovingly but more distantly.
The net result so far on me as a social being is difficult for me to
judge, but these seem pronounced effects:
1. My first real desire for Mass and the Eucharist, and to delve into
the liturgy.
2. My first real interest in sacred music, both the worship and the
deep lyrics.
3. My first real understanding of new testament passages, more
subtle, interior meanings.
4. Strong interest in mystical, worshipful writing--nothing too
analytical.
5. Sadness and self-upbraiding when I catch myself in mean-spirited
or ego-inflating thoughts.
6. Eating less, and more careful about what I eat.
7. Having to deal with not treating sex as a casual act.
"What a long, strange trip it's been" (Grateful Dead)
Richard Parker
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