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Recieved: 2002/04/02 07:39
Subject: Re: [K-list] A Beautiful Mind
From: José H
On 2002/04/02 07:39, José H posted thus to the K-list:
Hi Christopher,
What disappointed me so much about this movie that in the end, the message
that it sends out is that Nash is a worthy human being BECAUSE he wins the
Nobel prize after succesfully returning to his former workingfield, IN SPITE
of having a disease, called Schizofrenia. Doesn't give any new insight into
the states that are experienced and mirror's present day thinking about
those states - still mad and worthless if you don't win the Nobel prize....
Tell me something new.
Jose
>
> There is a lot more to the movie than at first seems on the
> surface. I have not seen it in full, but I have watched interviews
> with both Russell Crowe and the person he portrayed - Nobel
> Laureate Nash.
> When asked if he thought someone else could have played him better,
> all Nash could say of Crowe was that "he was a little bit short".
>
> But - Nash, also, in hindsight of the experiences of his earlier
> years - which were labelled as "schizophrenia" - could say that the
> voices he heard were the voices of his subconscious - and that, as
> he moved through this stage, he likened it to the state which most
> seek as "Enlightenment".
> If you get the chance to watch the movie - or in fact any other of
> Crowe's appearances - have a very close look at Crowe, his
> mannerisms - and particularly his eyes. If you can, read his
> energy.
>
> There was a lot that Nash did not say in the interview - and I feel
> the reason behind this was to protect Crowe from some of the things
> he had to go through - because he recognised, in him, a mirror of
> himself.
> The Inner Journey - that pathway to Enlightenment CAN seem like
> schizophrenia - especially when one is on the inside looking out.
>
> Fortunately, in my own journey, I did not make what I heard wrong.
> I accepted what I "knew" as best as I could - even though sometimes
> the things that came up and out were sometimes a little hard to
> take.
> The paranoia that is experienced by schizophrenics is because this
> state of "Inner Knowing" is made very wrong - by religion and
> society.
> My experience shows that there are many more people who are
> carrying this inner knowing hidden deeply inside of them - afraid
> of revealing it to others because they may be labelled "Mentally
> Ill"
> It is the fear of their knowing, and the pressures generated by the
> need to hide their identity - even from themselves which eventually
> created the "illness".
> Many of those who seek "Enlightenment" as the solution for their
> experiences are, in reality, merely seeking an understanding for
> their condition.
>
> Unfortunately, just as the Western Medical and Psychological
> Profession seeks to "Treat" those who are exhibiting symptoms of
> "Enlightenment" with some sort of "Shock Treatment", there are
> those Western Spiritual healers, therapists, masters and gurus who,
> through their own lack of awareness and cognisance, miss-diagnose a
> "Spiritual Emergence"
> It is only when one has come out the other side of the
> "Transpersonal Bands" or the Siddhis that one can understand (and
> see) what is going on for another.
>
> And - you can't get this through reading books ..
>
> It is only when one has gone through the experience and come out
> the other side that one can understand where one has been.
> The rising of the Kundalini - the pursuit of Tantra - the seeking
> of the rising of the Inner Spirit is not the path for everyone -
> and there is no seeking or training or practice that can give one
> the "Enlightenment Experience".
>
> This pathway can be fraught with great trauma for those who are
> unprepared for the revelations that will come from the body as it
> releases the hidden memories and knowings.
>
> One of the greatest of these traumas is the fear of "Going Mad"
> and it is the fear of this label which, for the most part, stops
> people from accepting that their "Enlightenment Experience" is
> merely a glimpse of what is possible as their own personal
> experience of "A Beautiful Mind".
> It is only in the realisation of the "Beautiful Mind" that one can
> fully comprehend the truth of "God", "Spirituality" and "Love".
> --
> Christopher Wynter,
> ChristopherATnospamlifestreams.com.au
>
> http://www.anunda.com
>
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