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Recieved: 2002/03/13 23:52
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re:Sometimes a cigar.....
From: Silverstar
On 2002/03/13 23:52, Silverstar posted thus to the K-list:
Good point, Joe. Good Point! But if a cigar is a cigar then maybe it IS a
cigar! : ) Sue
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com>
To: <K-list >
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 1:54 AM
Subject: [K-list] Re:Sometimes a cigar.....
> Please don't take this the wrong way. I'm not putting this person's
thoughts
> and ideas down but readubg it brought back a memory of "How to tell if
your
> child is on drugs" from a few years ago. Things like, moody, withdrawn,
> rejects authority,... things that were supposed to tell you if your kid
was
> toking up, or had turned 13. Because they were typical teenaged things.
>
> Aren't these also signs of aging for the most part?
>
> >Twelve Signs of Your Awakening Divinity
> >
> > 1.. Body aches and pains, especially in the neck, shoulder and back.
(Do
> >I need to say anything about this to folks over 30??)
> >
> > 2.. Feeling of deep inner sadness for no apparent reason. (For me the
> >reason was a subconscious reflection on opportunities not taken, loves
not
> >followed, etc.)
> >
> > 3.. Crying for no apparent reason. (Very much like #2, people you've
> >lost, who died or you just lost.)>
> >
> > 4.. Sudden change in job or career. (Like getting laid off at middle
age
> >or finding "it just ain't fun any more" and going off looking for
something
> >that is fun.)
> >
> > 5.. Withdrawal from family relationships. (Kids leave, other
> >relationships grow apart, a lot of divorces in midlife.)
> >
> > 6.. Unusual sleep patterns. (For guys a prostate accounts for a lot of
> >this but you just sleep lighter with age. The fridge kicking on can
startle
> >you awake.)
> >
> > 7.. Intense dreams. (Kind of like what a Methodist minister friend
puts
> >(along with going to church at that age when you didn't before) under the
> >heading of buying fire insurance. You start to pay attention to the
> >spiritual with age. You are closer to being one.)
> >
> > 8.. Physical disorientation. (Can't do things at 50 I could at 20 or
30,
> >though my sense of direction is as good as ever I think. But I'm only
part
> >white and I've noticed my all white friends never had a piss poor sense
of
> >direction at any age. No offense intended here either, maybe it was just
a
> >poor sample group but the compass in their heads and Inner Vision either
> >didn't work well or they ignored it. But just not paying attention is
more
> >likely with age I've noticed, that could be most of it.)
> >
> > 9.. Increased "self talk." (To quote Brother Dave (Gardner) the
favorite
> >comic of my youth, "People say you shouldn't talk to yourself. But
> >sometimes you just want to talk to somebody that's got good sense." I
know
> >what the term "self talk" means. I've seen what this is talking about in
my
> >friends who haven't made peace with their lives. They don't forgive
> >themselves for those mistakes mentioned up on #2 and #3. You can forgive
> >yourself and be saddened, but if you don't forgive yourself time stacks
it
> >up on you and you get really down on yourself.)
> >
> > 10.. Feelings of loneliness, even when in the company of others. (This
> >leads to a lot of those mid-life divorces and depression. I recall
> >realizing when young that you come into the world with nothing and alone
> >and you go out with nothing and alone. The depression was rough. But I
got
> >through it. Friends who said I was just "down" then are going through it
> >now. Most people don't face the truth early, they put it off as long as
> >possible.)
> >
> > 11.. Loss of passion. (For the old things yes. You have to reinvent
> >yourself every few years or you do loose your passion, unless you are on
a
> >spiritual path. Then it is possible to keep the passion for sp;iritual
> >things without a reinvention.)
> >
> > 12.. A deep longing to go Home. (I ain't THAT old!! But as time passes
> >we do become less tied to this plane in general and death is less
> >frightening.)
>
> None of this is to say that they aren't signs of some kind of spiritual
> unfolding of the person. But on the other hand that should come with age,
if
> it hasn't come already. My comments were just some notes to remind myself
> and maybe someone else that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
>
> Namaste,
>
> Joe
>
> _____________
>
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>
>
>
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