To: K-list
Recieved: 2002/01/22 00:17
Subject: Re: [K-list] to "help" or not to "help"
From: Keith Chapman
On 2002/01/22 00:17, Keith Chapman posted thus to the K-list:
Michael,
You are so very right... I have been judgemental with my heal this heal
that feelings... I do need to open myself up if I am to help others.
Perhaps I'm not meant for that, I don't know what yet, but I'm sure I'll
find out if I can just let myself go... :) Thank you so much. Your words
ring very true.
Peace and Serenity,
Keith
--- Michael <mjmessmerATnospamhotmail.com> wrote:
> In the not too distant past I thought that I had to "help" everyone,
> (whether they wanted it or not :-) ). The LAST person I would have ever
> considered helping was myself! I am now paying the price in the form of
> physical illness, and a shattered "life style". I have come to view this
> "set back" as an opportunity to finally focus on myself, and "un-learn"
> my care-taker role. Love is not judgmental and the truth is not pain...
> however the person receiving the love and truth may experience it as
> pain and judgment because of their "learned" filters. Ahhh! To finally
> become truly naked!!!
> In love and truth,
> Michael
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mediaone
> To: K-list
> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 8:32 PM
> Subject: [K-list] to "help" or not to "help"
>
>
> Dear List,
>
> I find the dialogue that is going on between Keith and Susan very
> interesting. In part, it makes me aware of how much I have come to
> trust
> Mystress Angelique's judgement and to feel the love and wisdom of her
> and
> others (such as Susan) who have been on the board for so much longer
> than I
> have. If I had just come upon the board and witnessed the exchange
> between
> Mystress and Tony I imagine I might have had questions about it
> (although
> from where I stand now I thought what Mystress did was incredibly
> loving and
> compassionate).
>
> It also makes me think about the whole issue and nature of "helping"
> and
> reminds me of something I read in one of Mystress Angelique's other
> sites
> about how even the act of offering love and healing to others can be
> disrespectful because it presumes that the other is "less than" and
> "in
> need" instead of seeing them as already whole and perfect and not
> needing to
> change them.
>
> I'm not trying to slam you for wanting to help, Keith, because I also
> think
> that there can be something useful about a fresh perspective, and not
> being
> biased by a history of negative experiences with a person. I know
> Goddess
> moves in you--as she does in all things-- and maybe you are her way of
> reaching out to Tony.
>
> Anyway, I just wanted to put in my two cents. This whole thing is
> very
> evocative for me. I can see parts of myself in each player (including
> Tony!).
>
> Love,
>
> Elizabeth
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